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Re:California governor vetoes bill that would have set a $35... by jononomo on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:51PM (#37816127)
The concept of steelmanning comes from Sam Harris.
Re:California governor vetoes bill that would have set a $35... by spinehacker on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:02PM (#37816192)
Lol. No, it doesn't.

And there are great reasons not to 'steelman.'

https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/08/09/against-steel...

Re:California governor vetoes bill that would have set a $35... by Vecr on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:08PM (#37816224)
I think steelmanning is good, depending on how much time you have for the debate. Obviously if you're going to be working on something for days with this person they should understand your position in detail and vice versa, but if you only have a couple hours or less for a debate it saves time without devolving into a point scoring war.
Re:California governor vetoes bill that would have set a $35... by semireg on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:06PM (#37816217)
Steelmanning in public may as well be mansplaining. But steelmanning inside your own head is a noble exercise.
Re:California governor vetoes bill that would have set a $35... by jononomo on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:26AM (#37833312)
These are not arguments against steelmanning -- these are arguments against doing something else and calling it steelmanning. In other words, this is strawmanning steelmanning.