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Re:Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains by TomK32 on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:22PM (#37812488)
Sadly commercial aviation fuel is currently tax exempt in the EU while the railroad companies do have to pay taxes for the fuel and energy.
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Re:Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains by xyzzyz on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:45PM (#37812686)
If aviation fuel was taxed at 100%, the ticket prices would only go up 20%. This alone would not make trains significantly more competitive.

Generally speaking, though, it doesn’t make sense to compare subsidies and taxes individually. Both planes and trains are already heavily subsidized, and if you removed all subsidies and taxes, I suspect planes would win handily.

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Re:Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains by nologic01 on Sunday October 08, 2023 @02:24PM (#37813086)
> if you removed all subsidies and taxes, I suspect planes would win handily

Until all transport is long-term sustainable in terms of environmental impact the cost calculus is messed up. Check out carbon footprint ranking of different modes [1].

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/travel-carbon-footprint

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Re:Austria rail operator OeBB unveils new night trains by TomK32 on Wednesday October 11, 2023 @09:53AM (#37844414)
Hm, I wonder if the Eurostar to Paris includes the emissions caused by digging the tunnel.
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