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Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by sokoloff on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:56AM (#37811034)
Living below your means (whatever that is) is a very good thing, not a bad thing.

Being stuck on an expenses ~= income treadmill is what sucks.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by Draiken on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:11AM (#37811175)
Living below your means is separated from your standard of living.

In a better world everyone should be able to live well without having to sacrifice as much.

Somehow we've convinced ourselves that it's always the individual's fault when they have to live with a worse standard of living to maybe retire one day.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by sokoloff on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:35AM (#37811376)
It’s the individual’s wise choice (not fault) when they do that, IMO.
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by Draiken on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:46AM (#37811498)
I agree with you regarding the means of living but that's not what I said.

Accepting that you will have to work until you die is lowering your standard of living. So is accepting that any emergency can bankrupt you or that you will never be able to travel, and so on.

For some reason people are conflating standards of living with irresponsible spending.