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Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by smeej on Sunday October 08, 2023 @06:51AM (#37809416)
So "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need"?

I hate to tell you this, but you've very much missed your target of "not something that's already been talked about for 200 years."

Who does the selecting? Who says, "You, there! You shall devote your time to programming robots, so your neighbors can 'be good friends' and have meaningful relationships. Buck up, comrade. Look how good it will be for everyone (...else)!"?

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by lordnacho on Sunday October 08, 2023 @07:02AM (#37809461)
I'll admit this isn't fully fleshed out. I've yet to design the gulags.

But the core of it is a change of focus away from "everyone must contribute as much as they can" which the lefties also support. It's more the recognition that actually we could (maybe!) get more done if we didn't insist on everyone doing something.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by pierat on Sunday October 08, 2023 @08:06AM (#37809752)
What you're trying to create needs to deal with this now simple fact:

Creation of a thing costs a lot of time and resource.

Copying said thing is trivial to the point of free.

(This is the biggest difference between our current culture, and previous years. Copying is effectively free.)

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by lordnacho on Sunday October 08, 2023 @09:46AM (#37810402)
This is only true in IP heavy areas, isn't it? You still need effort to pull ore out of a mountain.
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by BeFlatXIII on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:17AM (#37811220)
Abolish IP and treat ideas the same way bacteria swap their plasmids.
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by pierat on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:16PM (#37811760)
Doing that means you used to get the medieval and renaissance guild systems.

However, we already have countries that ignore copyright/patent/trademark (China). The new solution is to remove features from devices, and to tie them into some cloudshit.

We get some dog-and-pony show that cloud means we get new features, but in reality, it's just an anti-cloning tactic.

Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by lapcat on Sunday October 08, 2023 @08:25AM (#37809859)
See also: "in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic." https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8116796-for-as-soon-as-the-...
Re:Organization Probably Doesn't Want to Improve Things by BeFlatXIII on Sunday October 08, 2023 @11:19AM (#37811240)
Also,

> To make things worse, there actually is a class of people who have no job at all, which creates a kind of fear among the hangers-on.

Is a rephrasing of Marx's idea of the reserve army of labor. They are the lumpen who _could_ be used as replacements but mostly aren't.

I do mostly agree with GP's main point. The skill floor for meaningful work—even before this recent round of AI hullabaloo—has increased to the point where there are many people unemployable at any wage.