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Re:Before Skynet and the Matrix, This 50-Year-Old Movie Pred... by a-dub on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:16AM (#37808041)
> It’s about a humanoid robot and an authoritarian government.

you really think so? it's true that the government in the film was authoritarian, but the plight of the workers seemed far more salient than the structure of power that was keeping them in their place.

Re:Before Skynet and the Matrix, This 50-Year-Old Movie Pred... by Fissionary on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:09AM (#37810580)
Spoilers: I found the movie's portrayal of a social conflict quite disappointing.

The movie goes as far as showing that oppressed workers will lash out in a violent protest, but then it deflects this anger towards the mad scientist, and the conflict kind of fizzles out? And I think it ends with the owner of the factory promising not to oppress them as much, and the owner's privileged son promising to upkeep this, basically reinforcing the existing social order.

Doing anything else would stray dangerously towards socialism, though, so as a product of its time it's understandable.

Re:Before Skynet and the Matrix, This 50-Year-Old Movie Pred... by pram on Sunday October 08, 2023 @10:55AM (#37811021)
I found the conclusion closer to the 'class collaboration' ideology of Fascism.

Capital and labor are both dysfunctional in the movie, and this is portrayed in a typical socialist way: The upper classes are libertine, corrupt, inattentive, immoral. Labor is overworked, unrepresented, exploited.

However when labor tries to emancipate themselves from the oppressive and rigid order imposed, chaos ensues. They can't manage themselves correctly! So the ultimate solution is a synthesis. The classes stay in their positions (because this is the natural order) but conditions will be improved and so on

Re:Before Skynet and the Matrix, This 50-Year-Old Movie Pred... by d0mine on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:12PM (#37812392)
"natural order" argument reminds me how Aristotle describes a natural slave as "anyone who, while being human, is by nature not his own but of someone else" and further states "he is of someone else when, while being human, he is a piece of property; and a piece of property is a tool for action separate from its owner." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_slavery

"natural" does NOT mean good or that it is worth preserving.