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Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by RagnarD on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:09AM (#37807801)
Open source or not, apparently the no cost version is limited to 100 contacts, making that version a toy at best. At $29/seat/mo, it's not far away from far more mature all-employee Zoho One at $37/seat/mo (paid annually).
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by paulmendoza on Sunday October 08, 2023 @12:14AM (#37807816)
That’s a tiny number of contacts.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by zdragnar on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:06AM (#37808003)
I'm guessing they don't expect that many customers would actually convert if they had a higher cap on the free tier. It's more like a trial than anything.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by iFelix on Sunday October 08, 2023 @01:36AM (#37808121)
Tbh we haven't been focused on monetization at all. We've just put a high number to avoid disappointing people afterwards by raising pricing (I hate when company advertise something as cheap, then lock you in then raise price). But we don't enforce any pricing as of today, you can use the cloud host version for free without any limitation. The future pricing will likely be significantly lower. Initially we thought of introducing a pricing system that's more aligned with the value created (with a generous credit system, based on number of actions taken), because we found that Salesforce charges by seat but in large orgs most of the seat companies pay for are unused, so the incentives aren't aligned. I'm not sure we'll go this way because people also want a simple and predictable pricing they can understand.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by mirzap on Sunday October 08, 2023 @03:46AM (#37808617)
Contacts are a core feature. You can not expect to succeed as an open-source company by limiting the number of contacts at any point of maturity. Provide a decent number of features, and then charge for SSO and stuff like that.

Or put everything free and have your own dedicated service, with your infra and support. Look at Sentry. Everything is open source. They are making a lot of money. Not everybody wants to run Sentry on their own infra. Same with CRM.

Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by antaviana on Sunday October 08, 2023 @06:11AM (#37809225)
Be careful, that’s going to confuse a lot your buyers, especially at large corporations. Unless you are focusing in very tiny shops where who decides is the main or only user, your customers will be more concerned with cost predictability than with fairness. They just want to know what the cost will be with no surprises as to earmark the budget without having to revisit it later.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by iFelix on Sunday October 08, 2023 @07:33AM (#37809610)
Yes I agree, we might have to pick our battles and follow the industry norm on this one.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by monkey_monkey on Sunday October 08, 2023 @07:23AM (#37809581)
The no-cost Saas version is limited. The self-hosted version is not.
Re:Twenty: A Modern open-source CRM by iFelix on Sunday October 08, 2023 @07:26AM (#37809589)
Thanks for clarifying for others! I didn't expect this to show on HN today but we're definitely taking the feedback and going to change that page soon