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Re:Java 21 VirtualThreads vs. Clojure Lazy Seqs (from Clojur... by avodonosov on Saturday October 07, 2023 @02:05AM (#37799374)
You describe the great advantage IDE gives. My point though is that without IDE java is basically as good as most other languages without IDE.

I've spent years coding in java daily, most of the time in IntelliJ of course. But there was a time when I had to use for a project a very modest editor, with just basic syntax highlighting. After several days you get used to it and it does not bother you.

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Re:Java 21 VirtualThreads vs. Clojure Lazy Seqs (from Clojur... by jillesvangurp on Saturday October 07, 2023 @02:46AM (#37799554)
Which would put you at a disadvantage relative to other Java programmers. In many teams, that would not be tolerated if you then start committing code with obvious issues related to your poor tooling choices.
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Re:Java 21 VirtualThreads vs. Clojure Lazy Seqs (from Clojur... by ResearchCode on Saturday October 07, 2023 @07:35AM (#37800847)
I hope those obvious issues are caught by your reviewers and integration tests before they are committed.
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Re:Java 21 VirtualThreads vs. Clojure Lazy Seqs (from Clojur... by palata on Saturday October 07, 2023 @03:46PM (#37804926)
How did you jump from "After several days you get used to it and it does not bother you" to "you then start committing code with obvious issues"?

You can't just make up stuff and then blame other people for it...

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