No idea. I use IntelliJ for Java/Kotlin and emacs for everything else (Clojure, Python, JS, etc). I still encounter the occasional lunatic who uses eclipse or netbeans.

I know VSCode is the "standard" editor for front-end devs, and so I assume some of them are trying to keep their code editor when moving into backend work. I have to believe it's not as good - for a time I really, really tried to make emacs work for Java development, but it just.... doesn't :)

The reason I use VSCode is Code Server[0]. It is certainly not as powerful as IntelliJ, but the I have to get used to it because the web-based IDE is a must for me.

By the way, unless my English is terribly bad, calling someone lunatic for their choice of IDE may not be a great idea.

[0] https://github.com/coder/code-server

Lunatic meaning maniac or fool.

I was being facetious, of course :)

It's a hyperbole that no reasonable person would get offended by.

So nobody except Emacs users. ;)

Lunatics all.

Same for IntelliJ: JetBrains Space

But it also supports Gitpod, Google Cloud, GitHub Codespaces, Amazon CodeCatalyst, and Connect to Coder [0]

There's also Dev Container, that gives all the developers the same dev environment as a container.

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/remote-development-a.htm...

Doesn't it require you to have JetBrains locally installed on your machine to be able to connect?

Dunno, I always have it installed.

BTW, CodeWithMe [0] urls can automatically install some viewer to be able to participate in the call, don't know if it's the full editor or not. But they can install the full editor the same way for the above.

https://code-with-me.global.jetbrains.com

How's the Kotlin language server performance for you? When I last tried it was using up so much resources for the simplest Kotlin file. I gave up and moved to intelliJ (which incidentally offers plenty of refactoring features you don't get in vscode)

Kotlin is horrible in every IDE other than IntelliJ/AndroidStudio and JetBrains has little motivation to fix that.

That was my feeling too. Kotlin in Vscode was not usable. My computer ground to an halt as soon as I typed something

At my job a lot of people hate on Eclipse, but honestly I find it quite nice. I use IntelliJ for my private projects and think both are on par.

fellow eclipse die hard here ...

It's definitely a very complex beast but once you do master that complexity it is such a power tool. Even though I routinely do work in IntelliJ I miss various things enough from Eclipse that I always go back.

I just wish it had proper Kotlin support.

Base vs Base installations, Intellij is better. Ergonomically, I find Intellij better.

However, my experience with it has been that once you get every plugin you need loaded it becomes dog slow and even basic stuff like reference jumping becomes a slow, tedious slog compared to Eclipse.

Yeah, I used both Eclipse and Intellij and Eclipse is actually good IDE. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but I can not say that Intellij is better.

The most hate for Eclipse, in my job, comes from people who never used it. They basically dislike how it looks like and that it is not exactly same as Intellij.

Though I prefer IntelliJ, VS Code is fine.

I sometimes switch to VS Code just to use Lischke's terrific ANTLR plugin.

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mike-lis...

Intellij does a lot, and VS Code is very light. Some people prefer an IDE that does a lot, but some don't care and benefit from VSC being lightweight. Also, some projects are janky, and VS Code is easier to get to ignore that jank. Plus, I find VS Code's hotkeys to be much more intuitive as a long-time Windows user and hotkey addict.

No matter what I do locally, the final word is a pipeline build. A command line is closer to that than either IDE, so at times I've really appreciated VS Code mostly getting out of my way.

> VSC - lightweight

Are we talking about the same thing?

If you've seen IntelliJ, you won't have any problem calling VSCode lightweight :D

Exactly. Being lightweight is important when you are running the thing on some cheap VPS. Also the multi-lunguality, since you don't have "room" for multiple IDEs.

> VS Code is very light

Did you actually measure that? In my experience, once you've added the bare minimum of language support/LSP that's far from the case (and at comparable memory footprint VSC ends up doing less and is just less capable)

Honestly I didn't care about any objective measure, development "felt" less laggy in VSC.