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Re:Rails 7.1 Released by bradgessler on Friday October 06, 2023 @01:33AM (#37787390)
> if you're looking to hire frontend engineers, the candidate pool for React is a few orders or magnitude bigger

Can't these candidates quickly learn Hotwire? Seems like its much simpler than React (less moving parts)

Re:Rails 7.1 Released by technion on Friday October 06, 2023 @01:37AM (#37787407)
You'd be surprised how many candidates would prefer to just take another job. If for no other reason than resume building with the word react.
Re:Rails 7.1 Released by 0xblinq on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:05AM (#37787574)
Then that was not a good candidate from the get go? What about hiring people that really care about the product they're building and not just tool fanatics?
Re:Rails 7.1 Released by mplewis on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:24AM (#37787690)
One good reason to avoid a job doing Hotwire is so that you can take a job doing React for a similar amount, where your experience applies better and where you'll gain more transferrable experience.

In short, it's probably better for your career to work on React.

Re:Rails 7.1 Released by 0xblinq on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:29AM (#37787726)
As a developer, I get it.

What I don't get is why as an owner/stakeholder/CTO/lead would pick the worse tool (in some context) just because everyone is using it. Well, I do get it... I just don't agree.

If you read between the lines here, everyone is just picking React because everyone else is picking React, that's the only reason apparently. It drives me mad, but honestly I do understand it.

Re:Rails 7.1 Released by kurupt88 on Friday October 06, 2023 @04:26AM (#37788343)
Yeah, especially for crud apps when you get to implementing forms. So much easier with rails and hotwire.

But I would be tempted to go react and inertia js for MUI or EUI for the predesinged components and nice datagrids.

- https://eui.elastic.co - https://mui.com

Re:Rails 7.1 Released by 0xblinq on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:32AM (#37787751)
Also, I'm not 100% sure it's for the "same amount". To me it looks like Rails jobs have higher salaries, at least around here. But that could be because most Rails devs have many years of experience, I don't know.
Re:Rails 7.1 Released by ulizzle on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:14AM (#37787617)
No because every job wants you to hit the ground running. They’ll start asking for “10 years experience in Rails Hotwire” at some point
Re:Rails 7.1 Released by gedy on Friday October 06, 2023 @07:21AM (#37789263)
> Can't these candidates quickly learn Hotwire?

Main issue I've seen is Rails shops don't hire devs without Rails experience, or expect you to interview well with backend OOP type code.

I guess that's okay for someone wanting to get away from frontend and be "full stack", but it's not for a lot of people.

Re:Rails 7.1 Released by brennopost on Friday October 06, 2023 @08:17AM (#37789724)
Stimulus is considerably simpler than React, imo. Turbo, with frames and streams, might take a little time to get the hang of, but it's not overly complex either.