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Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by Retric on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:42PM (#37780830)
No, covers aren’t considered transformative. I think a great deal of this discussion comes from people not understanding copyright.

https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/intellectu...

Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by dcow on Thursday October 05, 2023 @12:53PM (#37780971)
I personally think our law regarding covers has been heavily influenced by record labels and is wrong about them, in practice. I’ve already heard the original enough times that if I want to hear a string quartet perform Viva La Vida it’s because it’s a new refreshing piece of art. The whole compulsory license thing indicates the law got it wrong. Anyway…
Re:OpenAI's justification for why training data is fair use,... by Retric on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:31PM (#37781427)
The song is distinct from an artists performance of that song, but let’s move outside of music to books etc.

Suppose A creates an epic poem, B does a poetry reading aka a performance of A’s poem. C plays that recording back in public. D reinterprets the poem making a new public performance. B can successfully sue C but not necessarily D if it’s sufficiently distinct. A however can potentially sue D, C, and B if none of them got the rights.

This is why JK Rawling got paid by the people making Harry Potter movies, she could sue if they didn’t pay. Trademarks may also be involved, but even without that if you want to make an MMORPG based on The Dresden Files or whatever be prepared to fork over cash. Unless you follow the Disney approach and use public domain works.