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Re:September was the most anomalously hot month ever by nradov on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:41AM (#37780047)
WW2 only lasted 4-7 years depending on which country you were in. There was direct, visible progress along the way. As soon as the war was over, everything could go back to "normal" (at least for the winners).

What you're asking for is a permanent reduction in standards of living. While that might be the right thing to do, it's going to be difficult to convince average people to vote for that. Many of them are barely getting by as it is and don't think they are able to sacrifice more.

Re:September was the most anomalously hot month ever by NoGravitas on Thursday October 05, 2023 @02:27PM (#37782175)
I was listening to "The Regrettable Century" podcast's episode on degrowth recently, and they made a couple of good points here. The first point is that degrowth as reduction-in-consumption only is really going to affect the global rich; everyone else can afford to come up a bit to a new lower average. The second point is that there's more to quality of life than quantity of consumption. Nobody is talking about, e.g., making modern medicine go away. It means more trains and fewer cars, fewer Funko Pops and more live music. It means shorter working hours and no commutes. Fewer treats but more leisure. It's only a permanent reduction in "standards of living" if by that you mean "amount of consumption" rather than "quality of life".
Re:September was the most anomalously hot month ever by flagrant_taco on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:18PM (#37786820)
Defining standards of living in this way is very short term focused. If we reduce energy demand now but avoid a power grid collapse a decade down the road, is that better or worse for standard of living? And if we really are meant to believe that climate change is irreversible if we don't change course before 2030, who gives a damn about stander of lining for the next few years?
Re:September was the most anomalously hot month ever by nradov on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:56PM (#37786975)
Sure, that's the logical analysis. But many people do give a damn about their short-term standard of living and vote on that basis.