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Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by darkerside on Thursday October 05, 2023 @07:13AM (#37777124)
I'm pretty confused. How do you think an average 8 year old would feel?
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by dr_dshiv on Thursday October 05, 2023 @07:54AM (#37777438)
Well, they continue to introduce Pythagorean theorem through many stages of elementary math, so 8 is pretty early. But.. here could be a section of a textbook:

Pythagoras & The Pythagoreans: Mathematics, Music, and Mystery

Pythagoras was an ancient Greek mathematician and philosopher who lived around 500 BC. He traveled widely and gathered knowledge from diverse cultures, like Egypt. He also founded his own school of men and women in Italy. There, he taught that numbers held the key to understanding the whole universe. Pythagoras is best known for the Pythagorean theorem.

Fun Fact! There are stories that when Pythagoras discovered his famous theorem, he celebrated in a big way. Some say he sacrificed 100 oxen, while others claim it was just an ox made of flour. The Pythagoreans were famously vegetarian, so what do you think?

Math & Music: Pythagoreans explored the relationship between math and music. They discovered that musical notes have mathematical relationships. Hippasus, a member of the Pythagorean community, used bronze disks to show that musical notes are connected to mathematical ratios. This is considered one of the first scientific experiments!

Activity: Using a stringed instrument, like a guitar, try plucking the strings when pressing at 1/2 the string or 2/3s the string. Try different fractions. Can you hear the mathematical relationships in the sounds?

Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by sotix on Thursday October 05, 2023 @08:41AM (#37777848)
I have thoroughly enjoyed all of your comments! You’re great at showing how learning can be fun. Do you have a blog where you compile these stories and anecdotes?
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by dr_dshiv on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:33PM (#37785103)
That’s very kind. I put work at https://Derek-Lomas.com

(My Pythagorean math blog is yet to be, but I do have some Pythagorean blog posts at https://aixd.substack.com)

Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by darkerside on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:05PM (#37786132)
This is probably appropriate for 10 year olds. Your last comment was not close, IMO. And really, I think we're both overestimating the average 8yo.
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by pc86 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:18AM (#37778223)
They'd probably be fine.
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by orochimaaru on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:49AM (#37778581)
They would be fascinated. I have one at home and a 12 yr old. This is the kind of stuff they’re always interested in.
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by RHSman2 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:36PM (#37784590)
We should all be intrigued by this. Young or old. Not reels and shit….
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by wishinghand on Thursday October 05, 2023 @10:13AM (#37778883)
When I was 8 I would sometimes watch a Disney VHS tape that had Donald Duck exploring stuff like this. The golden ratio, octaves of sound/music, pythagorean theorem etc. I loved it.
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by fishyjoe on Thursday October 05, 2023 @10:20AM (#37778965)
Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land.

You can find the whole thing on youtube

Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by JKCalhoun on Thursday October 05, 2023 @11:31AM (#37779908)
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by cdaringe on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:22PM (#37783030)
HEATHENOUS DUCK! Off with his head!

jk DD rocks

Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by jaybrendansmith on Thursday October 05, 2023 @10:54PM (#37786696)
Is that narrated by Paul Frees of Disney Haunted Mansion fame? Love it!
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by talldrinkofwhat on Friday October 06, 2023 @02:58PM (#37794760)
Donald Duck teaching 7th graders how to be pool sharks. A+.
Re:Pythagorean Theorem Found on Clay Tablet 1k Years Older T... by fennecfoxy on Friday October 06, 2023 @06:41AM (#37789010)
Which is why hands-on learning combined with source material is best practice for children, imo. Taking several disks and demonstrating that the thicknesses double but diameter is the same, letting the kids try hitting them and noting the differences in tone.

Asking the children "why do you think these sound different?" without telling them why first, letting them explore it themselves, gently correcting them along the way. Then pulling out another example and encouraging them to apply the same logic to the new example.

No, instead for the most part, children _still_ get what we all had: memorise these facts without explanation and fill out the blank space on the exam where the memorised words get you points. Most of our entire schooling is just an exercise in memorisation, not in thought and it's sad.