Re:Many scientists don’t want to tell the truth about climat...
by simbolit on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @07:14PM
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Please keep in mind that most (nearly all?) of our climate models only include rising carbon emissions from human sources. Thawing permafrost and warming swamps and burning forests and such will (very likely) produce additional carbon(-equivalent greenhouse gases).
They use the beautiful term "Unrepresented Earth system feedback mechanisms" in this 2019 paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1368-z.pdf
Keep on alarming, doomer!
Re:Many scientists don’t want to tell the truth about climat...
by Paul-Craft on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @07:33PM
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Hah. Yeah. The whole bit about climate tipping points, and how we've tripped (IIRC) 5 of them, and are in danger of tripping (IIRC again, sorry) another 8 or 9.... that's a whole other comment.
I was literally telling my therapist about a week and a half ago that it's so frustrating that I'm probably one of the most "doom and gloom" people I know on these subjects, yet every time I've been proven wrong, it's because I haven't been pessimistic enough. I'm about ready to start cross dressing and change my name to Cassandra, lol.
Re:Many scientists don’t want to tell the truth about climat...
by The_Stone on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @07:56PM
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One of my best friends when she transitioned literally did change her name to Cassandra because of this
Re:Many scientists don’t want to tell the truth about climat...
by soupfordummies on Thursday October 05, 2023 @10:09AM
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Outside of therapy which you just mentioned, how are you coping with all of this "doom and gloom" ?
How are you preparing for the worsening effects of climate change?
Just look here: https://climateactiontracker.org/global/temperatures/
You can plainly see that if we just do as we've been doing, by 2100, we're looking at 2.6-2.9 degrees of warming over pre-industrial levels. If we actually managed to hit the 2030 targets that have been set (and, that's a huge long shot, to be clear), then we're in for about 2.4 degrees.
If we literally just do what the fuck we've said we were going to do, then the prediction is still about 2 degrees of warming. The "optimistic scenario" (lol) is labeled 1.8 degrees.
Even if we got the help of a magical genie to stop emitting all greenhouse gasses today, we're still looking at at least 1.2-1.6 degrees of warming, according to NASA: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/climateqa/would-gw-s...
In the past year, we've seen mass die offs of salmon and snow crabs. Insects, as a group, are on the decline. Climate migration is starting to happen, and the countries that are receiving these refugees are not welcoming them with open arms.
This is barely the beginning. It only gets worse from here over the next decade. I honestly would not be surprised to see global civilization collapse in my lifetime, and my actuarial lifespan is up in about 45 years.