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Re:Fairphone 5 review: The most uncompromising repairable ph... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @02:15PM (#37755561)
In most of the US, I would bet that skilled labor willing and able to do the job of going to people’s homes to do appliance repairs will be expensive enough such that any ~$1,000 appliance just gets replaced.

My brother in law just called his 3 year old washer’s extended warranty line, and they didn’t even want to verify the issue. Immediately told him they were sending him a check for the amount he purchased the washer for, and all that was left was for him to buy a new one.

I imagine the labor itself costs $100 per hour, and including travel time, you are looking at $300 just to diagnose the issue. Then a couple hundred for the part, and if they have to wait for it, come back, that’s another $300. And you are already losing money.

I imagine that is why Citibank got rid of their 4 year Costco appliance warranty.

Re:Fairphone 5 review: The most uncompromising repairable ph... by monocasa on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @02:43PM (#37755886)
That's for the new stuff that isn't designed to be repaired.

My circa 1990s freezer broke a couple years ago. First guy quoted us "not worth repairing". Second guy did the job for two hours of $100/hr labor and a $60 part. Told us that if it were a modern device it wouldn't have been worth it because of the labor, but the freezer was old enough that everything that can break was designed to be easily and quickly repaired.

Re:Fairphone 5 review: The most uncompromising repairable ph... by nuancebydefault on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:08PM (#37756874)
The unfortunate irony in this story is that repairing stuff usually helps the environment, but in this case probably not, since older freezers consume quite a lot of energy, they were built when electricity was cheaper and using less optimized technology.

That being said, I'm fully in favour of repairable phones, the energy cost is not such an issue for such low power device.

I also think that todays dishwashers, washing machines, cooking plates, which are typically thrashed witin 10 years would benefit a lot from repairability if they are built to last.

Re:Fairphone 5 review: The most uncompromising repairable ph... by monocasa on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:46PM (#37757317)
It's a hard to say, but it's generally better to keep something at the consumer level running because of the cost of carbon manufacturing and shipping the product.

Additionally I happen to live in an area with a very heavy use of renewables, so the carbon cost is even lower.

Re:Fairphone 5 review: The most uncompromising repairable ph... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @02:51PM (#37755961)
But now you're just making the argument for repairing it yourself. How many people could make enough money in even a full day to recover the replacement cost of a $1000 appliance, rather than spending up to that long to fix it themselves?

And the parts are only hundreds of dollars because the appliances aren't repairable. Obviously if you have to replace a third of the appliance instead of just the bearing because that isn't sold as a separate part, repairs will be much less cost effective.