"What does preventing use of Edge have to do with DoH?" If you can't have basic control of programs on your own computer, tell me how you're going to control programs' use of DoH.
"You've yet to convincingly point out a single bad thing that actually comes from DoH." I've named many: we lose the ability to block ads, adware, Trojan CaC, spyware, et cetera. We lose the privacy of our own DNS lookups. Your suggestion seems disingenuous.
"You can't make public Wi-Fi or your ISP's network better no matter how knowledgeable you are." No - YOU can't or don't want to, because you don't understand networking. People who want to can, though, and this is what I'd encourage, instead of enshittifying the Internet by believing companies like Cloudflare when they tell us our ISPs suck and we should just trust them instead.
If your ISP dropped all packets on port 53 that contained a response for example.com, how would you circumvent that and learn its IP otherwise?
> "What does preventing use of Edge have to do with DoH?" If you can't have basic control of programs on your own computer, tell me how you're going to control programs' use of DoH.
Name a single program (other than unambiguous malware that nobody would ever be okay with being installed at all) that always uses DoH regardless of any configuration by a local administrator.
> "You've yet to convincingly point out a single bad thing that actually comes from DoH." I've named many: we lose the ability to block ads, adware, Trojan CaC, spyware, et cetera. We lose the privacy of our own DNS lookups. Your suggestion seems disingenuous.
There are DoH resolvers that do ad and malware blocking. Moving DNS from cleartext to an encrypted protocol is certainly not losing privacy.
> "You can't make public Wi-Fi or your ISP's network better no matter how knowledgeable you are." No - YOU can't or don't want to, because you don't understand networking. People who want to can, though, and this is what I'd encourage, instead of enshittifying the Internet by believing companies like Cloudflare when they tell us our ISPs suck and we should just trust them instead.
How are you proposing that people make other people's networks better? And are you saying that Americans' ISPs don't suck?
I'm fairly certain you're trolling. Do you do this with friends and family, too? Just so you know, people aren't agreeing with you just because they decide to stop engaging with you.
I like the fact that your attempts to derail are all here, plain as day, for anyone to see, because people knowing that DoH is a big scam to grab private data about them is important.
It's not just being out in public. Even when you're home, you're still at the mercy of your ISP.
> Go ahead and tell me how to remove Edge, or how to have Windows open links in other browsers
What does preventing use of Edge have to do with DoH?
> You didn't address the real meat of the issue: Why is avoiding one issue - ISPs tracking DNS - worth all the bad things that come with it?
You've yet to convincingly point out a single bad thing that actually comes from DoH.
> So instead of teaching people how and encouraging them to make their networks better, you'd rather divest some of that trust to companies like Cloudflare, and to every application / Trojan writer?
You can't make public Wi-Fi or your ISP's network better no matter how knowledgeable you are.