Re:Cloudflare is now powering Microsoft Edge Secure Network
by supriyo-biswas on Thursday September 28, 2023 @01:06PM
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DPI at ISPs or Cloudflare isn't really what I'm concerned about; it's the impending destruction of the VPN service model by mandating censorship and logging.
Re:Cloudflare is now powering Microsoft Edge Secure Network
by adventured on Thursday September 28, 2023 @02:01PM
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I'll be curious to see what tactics they (the political block in the West that's acting in quasi concert to enhance domestic espionage capabilities) attempt to use to accomplish it in the US given the enshrined protections we have that Europeans typically lack, which in theory should make it very difficult to censor VPNs here. The logging requirement aspect may end up being the part they can more readily get through in the US (one that will survive freedom of speech etc challenges).
Re:Cloudflare is now powering Microsoft Edge Secure Network
by ignoramous on Thursday September 28, 2023 @03:28PM
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VPNs aren't the solution to surveillance and censorship. Tor-style networks are better suited. Some of which are already in the process of standardization by the IETF.
> DPI at ISPs or Cloudflare isn't really what I'm concerned about
Well, that was like 50% content of the comment I replied to.
Re:Cloudflare is now powering Microsoft Edge Secure Network
by methou on Friday September 29, 2023 @01:53AM
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The usability of Tor is very PGP like. Personally I never seen one or introduced to one vibrant / healthy society. Also it's trend since a long time ago, people don't really mention about Tor sites on the clear net. (Ye, I know about the hiddenwiki)
> From a purely technical perspective this seems to be a slightly worse version of Apple Private Relay.
Private Relay is a well thought out design. Microsoft Edge Secure Network is merely a proxy because it is built for a different threat model: https://archive.is/pNnW5