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Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by Veliladon on Thursday September 28, 2023 @10:51AM (#37690361)
>Converted to the number of employees, this is three times as many emergencies – in a similar period of time – as occurred, for example, at the Audi factory in Ingolstadt.

Per capita the record is fucking awful. Move fast and break things doesn't really work for manufacturing where the things one breaks is employees. At least in civilized countries with functional employment protection laws.

Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by HerrBertling on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:16AM (#37690796)
Loose translation from the article on tagesschau.de for clarification:

> In Germany, work accidents need to be reported if the person injured died in the process or cannot work for more than three days.

(https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/tesla-gruen...)

So nope, not band-aid accidents. Actual people being injured in such a way that they need at least three days off.

Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by marricks on Thursday September 28, 2023 @10:51AM (#37690379)
> requested an ambulance or helicopter 247 times in the first year after opening alone

Kinda doubt it

Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by sophacles on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:01AM (#37690569)
Do you have any actual data suggest your doubt is founded?
Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by marricks on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:09AM (#37690685)
The original reply stated “reported injuries could be bruised thumbs”

This supports the idea that not just reported injuries were high but so were injuries which required ambulance calls.

If you have data to suggest those were all for bruised thumbs you should add that yourself.

Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by sophacles on Thursday September 28, 2023 @05:36PM (#37696220)
My mistake, I misread your doubtful reply up a level such that you were doubting the safety office's report, not quoting it to the "bruised thumbs" reply. Cheers.
Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by marricks on Thursday September 28, 2023 @07:38PM (#37697422)
Oh gotcha, no worries.
Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by scblock on Thursday September 28, 2023 @10:54AM (#37690415)
This is how it is supposed to work in the United States as well. Any injury at all reported, then categorized by severity. First aid, lost lost time, etc.
Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by mcpackieh on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:01AM (#37690556)
Let's be real; nobody puts a band-aid on a bruise, and even a band-aid for a papercut isn't going to kick off a paperwork process in normal circumstances, even in Germany. The letter of German law may not put any lower bound on injury reporting, but that doesn't mean there isn't one in practice.
Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by wkat4242 on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:22AM (#37690917)
Exactly, having such formalities actually prevents people from reporting minor incidents because of all the wasted time with H&S teams.

I made the mistake going to the 1st aid guy at work once when I had a tiny cut, just didn't want to leave blood so I went to ask for a band aid. I'll never make that mistake again because I had to fill out forms, show what happened, discuss improvement plans with my manager etc. Fuck that.

Re:Very high number of workplace accidents at Tesla factory ... by HerrBertling on Thursday September 28, 2023 @11:17AM (#37690823)
There is a lower bound, see my comment. Three days out or more (or death, that is…) needs to be reported, anything below does not.