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Re:Mistral 7B, the most powerful language model for its size... by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:00PM (#37679557)
> The dataset and pipeline to rebuild these weights are not included.

This is a good point.

But its probably not deterministic and reproducible. I bet the researchers themselves couldn't remake the exact weights (or even similar weights) from scratch.

Re:Mistral 7B, the most powerful language model for its size... by monocasa on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:11PM (#37679715)
I mean most binaries aren't reproducible. That takes a lot of work and isn't worth it most of the time.

However, I've heard from ML engineers at the big shops that hermetic, reproducible builds are key to making any progress at scale with ML. Apparently that goes all the way back to when Jeff Dean took over Google Brain.

Re:Mistral 7B, the most powerful language model for its size... by Scene_Cast2 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:24PM (#37679903)
Yep. Even if the initial seed for parameter init, the example shuffling seed, etc were constant, the distributed nature of training (and syncing the model across machines) would kill reproducibility. Not to mention resuming from checkpoints after gradient explosions, etc.
Re:Mistral 7B, the most powerful language model for its size... by monocasa on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:32PM (#37680031)
I've heard from ML engineers at larger shops that reproducibility is key to working at scale. That's how you track down "this training regime went to shit because of something we changed" versus "this training regime went to shit because on of the GPUs training it is starting to fail".