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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by coldtea on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:35AM (#37671806)
>So don't use adobe? Why you are writing like you are forced to sideload?

Because it doesn't matter if they don't threaten to kill you. If you need the apps and they only offer them via sideload, then you're still forced.

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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:59AM (#37672004)
dont use their apps at all? They already have scammy behavior for cancelation. It's like saying if you need medicine and you can only find it on dark market: the action isn't buying medicine on dark market, it's finding/asking for a replacement that is easy to buy. If adobe will exit appstore, another players will pop out with similar functions and that are present on the store
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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by FridgeSeal on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:17AM (#37672184)
“Sorry boss, I can’t open the email and attachment you sent, because MS and Adobe both decided they need to side load their apps, and I’m not about that on devices I use”

Yeah that’ll go down so well.

I need you to understand that orgs will abuse their standing and power, regardless of what users want. At least in the existing walled garden setup, they’re forced to at least try and behave.

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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:47AM (#37672434)
like yes? if my job requires an app that can't be installed from official app store something is wrong and I'll not install that sh...? or at least they should provide work phone? Or at least install app on another account just for that(not sure if ios has this)
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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by coldtea on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:51AM (#37672460)
>if my job requires an app that can't be installed from official app store something is wrong and I'll not install that sh...

Yeah, good luck with that.

And we haven't touched personal use, features or format compatibility not existing elsewhere, and so on.

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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @06:04AM (#37672577)
emm, thanks, that's already what i'm doing...
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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by coldtea on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:18AM (#37672198)
In many professional situations, that would be like telling your boss you don't feel like using Teams or Github or AWS, because you don't agree with their business practices. Or telling your clients.

It's not a Vim vs Emacs vs VS Code choice.

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Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by Moldoteck on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:54AM (#37672486)
work is work, personal device is personal device. What you use for work doesn't matter since you either should be provided with a work device or at least be able to install apps on separate account God, mental gymnastics some people perform to justify ios limitations... Like WE HAVE THIS ALREADY, on macos, windows, android... and insta/wh/fb apps are still on google play... and you can still access them in the browser. Not to say that if apple makes the process to install these sideloaded apps a bit harder (like multiple warnings 'DANGER' and confirmations, the possibility apps will migrate fully outside appstore tends to zero
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