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Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by llm-apprentice on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:09PM (#37661433)
Great to see another company join the LLM-builder tier. Good luck Vectara!
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by cjcenizal on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:08PM (#37661424)
I work at Vectara and I'm curious -- are folks here using Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)? What's your stack and what kind of improvements have you seen in answer quality?
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by Nischalj10 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:12PM (#37663494)
pinecone + custom built ingestion & retrieval for codebase RAG (for the purpose of code search and understanding)
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by noobcoder on Friday September 29, 2023 @01:56PM (#37707882)
Clickhouse + Custom Reranker
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by awadallah on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:29PM (#37661749)
What are the limitations and challenges of Boomerang in terms of scalability to a large corpus with tens of millions off questions?
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by cyndaqu1l on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:12PM (#37661476)
As one of the people behind the development of Boomerang, I would love to add that we've tried to be as objective with the evaluation of our model as possible. And have reported results on datasets where we do better as well as worse than other commercial offerings as well as models available on HuggingFace.
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by awadallah on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @12:23PM (#37661639)
How does Boomerang handle the trade-off between speed and accuracy? Does it sacrifice the quality of the results for faster response time?
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by svcrunch on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @01:09PM (#37662462)
The metrics presented in the blog post are those of our production model. When designing Boomerang, we tried to balance latency and search relevance in a manner that strikes the right balance for most use cases.

On the other hand, GTR-XXL is an example of a research model that biases in favor of search relevance, at the expense of latency. It's not really practical to deploy in production environments as a result.

Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by Nischalj10 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:10PM (#37663459)
how good is it for code RAG applications?
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by eskibars on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @02:31PM (#37663770)
So far, we haven't really focused on code ingestion. We've had a few users try it out for that use case, but we code ingestion and generation is a bit different. We've found a lot of users have success in the natural language areas (ingesting enterprise content, ecommerce content, etc) and then building chatbots on top of the all-in-one API
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by Nischalj10 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @01:42AM (#37670636)
true, code is very different than natural language. any plans for incorporating it?
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by ofermend on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @03:33PM (#37664713)
Using Boomerang can significantly improve your end-to-end RAG performance: retrieving the most relevant facts (or chunks) matters, a lot!
Re:Show HN: Boomerang, a new embedding model for RAG and sem... by K0IN on Sunday October 01, 2023 @09:21AM (#37725695)
> Note that while Boomerang is optimized for low-latency performance, models like GTR-XXL, which weighs in at 4.8 billion parameters, are very challenging to productionize.

So what is the size of your model than, or did i miss something?