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Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by lettergram on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:12AM (#37639608)
I mean.. we locked children in their homes for 12-24 months. Quite literally, my kids could not: attend school, take swim lessons, do gymnastics, play soccer for 24 months without severe restrictions. Further, other parents were concerned to the point the sniffles or a covid exposure would limit our ability to get together for 3-14 days. Finally, you had parents also stuck home trying to raise kids in this environment and often would end up eating out / getting pre-packaged meals because there simply wasn't time.

Luckily, we had a yard, so I could at least get my kids outside and we'd play. Eventually, I ended up just moving because 18-20 months into this thing Illinois was still having a mask mandate for 2yr olds plus. I think it was finally lifted from schools after 24 months - https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-illinois-mask-...

I should add, many places still required it, it just wasn't mandated. They still were shutting down the classrooms every for a couple weeks at a time if 1 covid case was identified. This ended up meaning 25%+ of the time my kids were home.

My general point, if you feed kids a bad diet & remove their ability to exercise yeah -- type 2 diabetes.

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by NickBeee on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:14AM (#37641212)
> locked children in their homes for 12-24 months

So you LITERALLY sit at home ALL THE TIME for a year? Even China didn't had 12 Month lockdowns!

> mask mandate lifted from schools after 24 months so locked at home or just mask mandates?

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by lettergram on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:08AM (#37642431)
> So you LITERALLY

I was using the collective “we”.

My family had a yard and had kids playing outside. We eventually just moved to somewhere not doing any of the restrictions.

BUT where I was living did restrict severely for a prolonged period.

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by watwut on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:58AM (#37641473)
My kids were not locked in our home. They were outside literally every day. And I live in a city apartment and we had lockdowns. They socialization did suffer and they missed some sports practice, but they did had enough of healthy physical movement.
Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by lettergram on Monday September 25, 2023 @08:12AM (#37642471)
Sure, glad you did that. Like I said, we were outside in the yard and very active.

I can easily imagine plenty of peers & neighbors not letting their kids out to play. That’s how it was where I lived. I’m sure play dates were canceled. I’m sure parents staying at home didn’t get their kids as much exercise as gym class. I’m also confident many parents just gave their kids tablets to entertain them.

You mention yourself missed sports practice. At a massive scale many children in the margins do get more overweight and that correlates with increased type 2 diabetes.

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by watwut on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:16AM (#37643264)
I do not know anyone who would not have kids going outside. Literally anyone. Yes some socialization was cancelled. Some people kept socializing with one or two friend families. Literally no one I know about kept kids inside 24/7 the way you suggested.

In general, parents who do put less effort into children were also the ones took lockdowns least seriously - meaning their kids were about as usual minus school.

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by lettergram on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:24AM (#37645360)
This isn't hard to imagine.

Imagine you're in NYC, school is closed, gyms are closed, swimming is closed, beaches are closed. You have to work and your kids are home. How do you get them activity? You send your 4 year old down the hall to run around? what exactly?

That's an extreme example, but even in the suburbs I saw a dramatic reduction in available activities & children participating in activities.

Even a 25% reduction in activity for marginal kids (i.e. on the kid of getting type 2 diabetes) would probably push a significant portion over the edge and become diabetics.

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by watwut on Monday September 25, 2023 @03:55PM (#37649677)
We just went to a park or walk. That sort of stuff. Not everything needs to be an organized activity. Maybe the suburbs are in even worst position then city, since you are completely limited to own backyard with nowhere to go if it is nor paid and organized.
Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by VancouverMan on Monday September 25, 2023 @06:50PM (#37651836)
I don't think you appreciate just how oppressive and outright stupid the restrictions were in some areas.

> We just went to a park or walk.

At one point, such venues were closed across an entire Canadian province with a population of about 14,000,000 people at the time. To give a sense of scale, that population would make Ontario the 5th-most-populous US state, if it were one.

"Ontario closes all playgrounds, sports facilities and off-leash dog parks"

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-closes-all-playgrounds-sp...

A trip to the park or engaging in outdoor activity could have easily resulted in steep fines in much of Canada.

Here are some examples of such incidents:

"Coronavirus: Oakville, Ont., family hit with $880 ticket after going rollerblading"

https://globalnews.ca/news/6810568/coronavirus-oakville-onta...

"Britannia man fined $880 while walking dog through Britannia Park"

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/britannia-man-fine...

"First Winnipeg public health ticket handed out to scofflaw skateboarder"

https://globalnews.ca/news/6895000/first-winnipeg-public-hea...

"Chin-ups in the park net Toronto man $880 fine as provinces enforce stricter measures"

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/chin-ups-in-the-pa...

"Coronavirus: Man fined $750 for playing basketball in Kitchener park"

https://globalnews.ca/news/6783242/kitchener-basketball-man-...

"Dartmouth man who went to Shubie Park fined for violating state of emergency regulations"

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/dartmouth-man-who-went-to-shubie...

Re:Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pa... by TurkishPoptart on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:34PM (#37680884)
Good comment. We must never forget the egregious violations of civil rights incurred for seemingly no good reason at all. I remember being kicked off the beach in Chicago, when I was just hanging out _alone_. What does that have to do with public health?