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Re:My solopreneur story: zero to $45K/mo in 2 years by nico on Sunday September 24, 2023 @10:59AM (#37633753)
It’s not juvenile games, it’s hard work. If it was easy games everyone would be raking it in

If anything, the juvenile thing to do is to look at reality the way it is and deny it because it doesn’t fit our personal world view

I get it, we’d love a world in which we could just do our best work and everyone could see it and recognize it

But reality is that people are thinking about themselves and are not searching for what we are building. How would they ever find out about what we do if we are not telling them?

You have a serious misunderstanding of what marketing is if you think it’s slyness and trickery

Of course I’m not going to convince you otherwise, but I think it might help you to actually do research, read a marketing book and talk to people in marketing to understand what it really is

Re:My solopreneur story: zero to $45K/mo in 2 years by 4gotunameagain on Sunday September 24, 2023 @04:04PM (#37636637)
Nobody said that juvenile games cannot be hard work. And yes, I do believe that most smart people can "rake it in" if they decide to play this game.

You mention deny reality. Reality is formed by our actions. Adherence to such systems and the playing of juvenile games ensures their perpetuation. I shall not contribute to what I think is the wrong way to go.

And yes, marketing is slyness and trickery. 95% of marketing is A/B ad and layout testing. Or shall we consider the great, historical marketing successes such as promoting cigarettes as healthy, or breakfast cereal ?

Re:My solopreneur story: zero to $45K/mo in 2 years by nico on Sunday September 24, 2023 @05:07PM (#37637200)
At this point you are either just trolling or being a hypocrite

There isn’t a single organization that doesn’t do marketing one way or another (just putting a sign outside a restaurant is marketing, maybe you also consider that to be tricking people and playing games?)

Pretty sure that without marketing you would either not have a job or not get paid

So you are actually fine with marketing making you money, just as long as you are not the one doing it. Sounds like denying reality

Btw, marketing != advertising, and 95% of people don’t even have the time, budget or large enough audience to do any kind of A/B testing

Re:My solopreneur story: zero to $45K/mo in 2 years by 4gotunameagain on Monday September 25, 2023 @02:09AM (#37640149)
I obviously do not include things like putting a sign outside a restaurant or sponsoring an FSAE team in the same category as being shallow and silly in linkedin or shipping predatory ads to phones.

You obviously cannot see the distinction, so why bother replying ?

  Pretty sure that without marketing you would either not have a job or not get paid  
Oh and, the work I'm doing (aerospace engineering) does not require predatory marketing. It requires results. No need to hype some new tech on twitter and show how I follow the trends.
Re:My solopreneur story: zero to $45K/mo in 2 years by ryanwaggoner on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:17AM (#37642019)
Now you’re moving the goalposts. First you were complaining about how marketing in general is just slyness and trickery, but now when it’s about your industry, we’re only concerned with “predatory marketing”.