Three NorCal Tribes Announce Nation’s First Indigenous Ocean Protection Area

Re:Three NorCal Tribes Announce Nation’s First Indigenous Oc... by chrisbrandow on Friday September 22, 2023 @07:48PM (#37619226)

I wish there were a clearer explanation of what this means. Obvs if they are declaring legal sovereignty it’s a pretty important development. But there is a big difference between a press release and the first time they take actions that contradict the presumed US sovereignty.

But still the article doesn’t make clear to me if that’s what’s actually going on.

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Re:Three NorCal Tribes Announce Nation’s First Indigenous Oc... by dragonwriter on Friday September 22, 2023 @10:33PM (#37620129)

> Obvs if they are declaring legal sovereignty it’s a pretty important development. But there is a big difference between a press release and the first time they take actions that contradict the presumed US sovereignty.

Tribal governments are subordinate-but-concurrent sovereigns to the federal government, similar to states, so while it might sort-of contradict California’s sovereignty, nothing in this story would even potentially contradict US sovereignty.

And, actually, it is more complex than that, because tribal governments also exercise concurrent sovereignty within their territory with the states in which their lands are located, rather than exclusive sovereignty, so it wouldn’t strictly contradict California sovereignty, either.

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