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Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by emodendroket on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:52PM (#37615264)
Why even build your own e-commerce Web site at all in that case? It’s undifferentiated work.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by bcrosby95 on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:27PM (#37615764)
I don't know about nowadays.

8 years ago we built our own ecommerce site + warehouse app (inventory tracking, fulfillment, receiving) for a few hundred orders per day. The goal was to be able to better see profit margins by product, track where the money was going/coming from in detail, along with cleaning up the inventory management part of the operation.

The warehouse people loved the change because it really streamlined the fulfillment process and it basically reduced their errors to zero. Owners loved it because of the all the cost/price tracking. It took about 6 months of work by 2 devs.

Before this they were on woocommerce. It was slow as shit. We looked at shopify but the integrations with 3rd party warehouse stuff was bad. The other solutions we looked at were overly complicated swiss army knives.

Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by sodapopcan on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:41PM (#37615962)
This is very close to my experience as well. Unfortunately, it was in reverse for me :( We had a custom solution and people were happy. A new tech lead came in and didn't like that the custom solution was PHP that still had some legacy spaghetti in it, so we switched to an off the shelf solution. It was very painful. People were unhappy.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by pmarreck on Friday September 22, 2023 @09:59PM (#37619984)
> that still had some legacy spaghetti in it

I'm going to take a wild ass guess here that you are wildly understating the "bit of legacy spaghetti"

Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by sodapopcan on Saturday September 23, 2023 @10:36AM (#37623613)
Your wild guess is flat out wrong. When the previous tech lead came in the entire thing was spaghetti. His strategy was to slowly start bringing in some order to the chaos which we did, diligently, over two years making tons of progress. It was a homebrewed framework but it was really nice (he'd had years of experience contributing to Drupal). All the business critical functionality had been converted to this. The spaghetti parts were features that were essentially "complete". Since they never needed updating, they worked fine as they were.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by pmarreck on Saturday September 23, 2023 @09:15PM (#37629250)
Drupal is the one piece of technology that I did 1 project in and would never work with again no matter what the pay was.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by sodapopcan on Saturday September 23, 2023 @11:17PM (#37629859)
I wouldn’t know I’ve never used it.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by evantbyrne on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:15PM (#37615593)
As with anything, the typical business can use something off-the-shelf, but a certain percentage are doing things differently enough that custom development becomes practical. I had to custom build the billing system for Beaker Studio to properly meter customers. Even Stripe's metering API wasn't flexible enough to handle per-hour metering.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by emodendroket on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:17PM (#37615625)
I find it hard to imagine a reason a shop selling 100 tee shirts in a day would need any custom functionality since this is basically the exact use case all these OOB e-commerce tools are built for.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by sodapopcan on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:34PM (#37615872)
I've worked for such a place. Off-the-shelf solutions are trying to be everything to everyone and you can end up customizing the crap out of them to the point where it can become more onerous than just building your own. The place I worked was also print-on-demand service and had hundreds of thousands of SKUs as well as allowed customers to make custom products and we also hosted some peoples' shops. Shoehorning that into a custom solution was painful.

I work at a very similar place now that uses Shopify. Managing that many SKUs on Shopify is crazy painful.

The thing is is that custom ecom solutions really aren't that hard. The off-the-shelf ones are complex because, as stated above, they are trying to be everything to everybody.

Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by evantbyrne on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:20PM (#37615668)
Yeah, you're probably right about that. Main thing that would likely be custom would be the design.
Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by sarchertech on Friday September 22, 2023 @03:02PM (#37616250)
One of the first commercial projects I worked on nearly 20 years ago was a tshirt shop. And the precious company I worked for was a comparatively huge logistics startup.

I’m fairly confident I could spend a month or so writing a custom solution for a shop selling and shipping a few hundred tshirts a day that would save them enough money to break even on the software in a few years (compared to off the shelf solutions).

If I was starting my own tshirt company, I’d definitely do it.

Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by MyneOutside on Friday September 22, 2023 @03:44PM (#37616773)
In our B2B space there are tons of custom business rules. For example, you place orders per manufacturer and each manufacturer has its own minimum and reorder amounts and reqs on an order, promotions, business rules, etc. This is for business that have been around 25-30 years.

We did an evaluation on several out of the box ecommerce solutions and none of them were able to meet the requirements that absolutely had to be there. Shopify flat out said no, they can't help us, etc.

Re:I'm All-In on Server-Side SQLite (2022) by parineum on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:37PM (#37615906)
> the typical business can use something off-the-shelf

I think we generally have this problem. It's not the typical business that can use that stuff, it's the average business. Unfortunately no business is the average business.