Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by tengbretson on Thursday September 21, 2023 @10:59PM
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How about the fact that DEF freezes at 12 degrees Fahrenheit, so in order to maintain it in liquid form it has to have an always on tank heater in winter. And if your battery happens to die for an unrelated reason in winter it can cause a thousand dollars in damage to the emissions system.
Or how about the fact that the regulations enforcing use of def cause you to be unable to use your vehicle after 500 miles of it detecting any kind of system fault. So imagine you are 10 minutes into a multi-hundred mile drive and an emissions fault pops up. By the time you get home you have about 120 miles of driving before you will not be able to start your vehicle. Now, you call the 2 dealers within 100 miles and due to a thing called the pandemic the soonest you can get a service appointment is over a month out.
AdBlue is enough of a pain in the ass that it is the reason I had to buy a second car. How's that for saving the environment.
Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by callalex on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:26AM
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Sure but what about all the people dying premature deaths due to respiratory and heart diseases with clear, well understood, and well established links to diesel particulate pollution?
Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by zolbrek on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:43AM
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That's what particle filters are for.
Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by callalex on Friday September 22, 2023 @12:07PM
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So your solution is to just never go outside?
Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by zolbrek on Saturday September 23, 2023 @09:28PM
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How is that related to particle filters?
Re:Volvo to cease production of diesel cars in a few months
by tengbretson on Friday September 22, 2023 @12:24PM
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I think you might have replied to the wrong post.
What are you talking about? I have a diesel and you really only need to top off DEF about as often as you change oil. Your service people will top it off for you, and just about any place that sells diesel in America sells DEF too.