Re:British journalist held by police at Luton airport for fi...
by Ekaros on Thursday September 21, 2023 @01:37AM
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I think it could well be argued that the "West" never even had moral values. Just look at WW2 and their failure to liberate Eastern Europe and regain lands conquered by Stalin... After that it really was more about their benefits and than any real values held.
Re:British journalist held by police at Luton airport for fi...
by hef19898 on Thursday September 21, 2023 @11:21AM
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Well, there was a reason the continuation of WW2 against the USSR was called "Operation Unthinkable". There was simply no way anybody could afford to start a land war against the USSR in 1945.
But yes, the Western values always have been over valued (no pun intended). Just how much over valued becomes clearer by the day. Still, democracy is the best available form of government, and there have been serious progress in tue last decades. I just wished tze West would wake up and start to live those proclaimed values (which aren't bad at all) and not just so lip service.
Re:British journalist held by police at Luton airport for fi...
by Ekaros on Thursday September 21, 2023 @11:38AM
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They still had other half of population with suffrage left. And wouldn't value of democracy mean that also sacrificing them would have been morally correct way to spread democracy? Just arm them and send to frontlines.
That ship has left the barn long, long ago. We can't provide military resources to a known fascist totalitarian-authoritarian dictatorship, so they can enact genocide, and still proclaim ourselves on the 'right' side of history.
The illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003: same. The funding and arming of ISIS. The destruction of Libya.
We lost our moral altitude long, long ago - and its not coming back. As this story demonstrates, we in the West have gotten far, far too complacent about totalitarian-authoritarianism, such that we just accept it when it happens to us, at the airport, etc.