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Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by RangerScience on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @01:27PM (#37587025)
> In the not distant past most Americans spent 30+% of their income on food, which I doubt is a world many of us want to return to.

I mean - I think I understand the motivation behind that but

I am pretty convinced that the value of "low-carb" / "no-carb" diets has less to do with the impact of carbs (after all, wheat literally was the symbol of European civilization for a really long time) and more to do with how they're used as cheap caloric filler (looking at you, Panda Express). Pretty much a "get what you pay for" kind of situation, in my eyes - so maybe spending that much on food isn't as bad as was thought.

also, on the gripping hand, looks at cost of housing - so maybe if it's not one thing it's another.

Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by ch4s3 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @02:07PM (#37587631)
Even high quality food is far cheaper than it was only a generation or two ago.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by bbojan on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @03:18PM (#37588737)
What quality are you talking about? In my 8 years in Canada I wasn't able to by decent blackberries or tomatoes. At any price.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by hotnfresh on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:11PM (#37590862)
30 years ago (within that generation-or-two span), at least here in the parts of the US I was in around that time, blackberries and lots of other stuff were both expensive, and only available seasonally. You could get canned year-round, not fresh.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by bad_user on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @03:14PM (#37588684)
Low carb diets work as well as high carb diets. It has nothing to do with the cost of calories, but rather with food palatability.

We have a brain that seeks diversity and foods high in calories or salt. The average diet is equally high in fat, carbs, and salt. This is why ultra-processed foods aren't good for losing weight, as they are optimized for taste.

Pick any food you like, eat only that food for a couple of months, and you'll lose weight like crazy.

High carb and low carb diets work simply because they reduce choice. Except that food producers have caught on to it, and are now producing plenty of junk food that's within any macros parameters you want. The brain also eventually adjusts to the scarcity of some food group or another, it reajusts, and appetite comes back.

Also, compliance for such diets is absolutely terrible, most people putting all the weight back eventually.

There's no escaping the fact that what's making us fat is simply food availability, and that to lose weight we have to eat less somehow, either by strong will, or by medical assistance.

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As for people wishing for food to be more expensive, such that they or others can lose weight ... OMG. I guess starving the poor is one way to solve obesity or overpopulation. The silliness of degrowth policies applied to our food supply.

Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by ilyt on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:05PM (#37590811)
I think it's mostly that this kind of food is also easily and quickly digestible which just means getting hungry earlier.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by Aerroon on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @06:32PM (#37591035)
But were those Europeans healthy? We can see a life expectancy and height increase in most European countries these days. And this is with us having subpar diets where most people get insufficient amounts of some pretty important stuff like magnesium and vitamin D.