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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by mindslight on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:45AM (#37571624)
As a general rule when criminal conspiracies are taken to task, they don't retain a right to privacy for their communications that aren't about the criminal conspiracy. Rather it all comes out in court. I understand why Snowden released the way he did, and given how it kept attention on the subject for longer than Binney/Klein it was probably the right call. But there should have also been an escrow/intent to dump the whole trove raw after some time period.
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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by 0xDEF on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @12:37PM (#37572482)
>As a general rule when criminal conspiracies are taken to task, they don't retain a right to privacy for their communications that aren't about the criminal conspiracy. Rather it all comes out in court.

That doesn't seem to be true. There are many court cases involving criminal conspiracies where you cannot find unrelated information about the involved people.

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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by mindslight on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @01:31PM (#37573296)
"in court" may have been a bit too strong, but police do generally have carte blanche to the entirety of someone's private life. For most people the police show up, confiscate any items that might possibly be evidence, damaging them or at least denying their use for several years.

Due to the severe corruption of our institutions, the investigators in this case are the public. A time period of a decade is more than enough time to recall all the HUMINT assets that might be damaged by such disclosure. And frankly the blame for any forced transparency should fall squarely on the shoulders of the NSA for having bundled so much under one blanket of secrecy.

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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by some_random on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @11:56AM (#37571837)
Do you really think the entire American IC is a "criminal conspiracy", or are you just trying to justify the fact that Snowden is an angry and vindictive sharepoint admin who simply dumped everything he had access to without regard for what was actually in those documents?
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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by wnoise on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @12:20PM (#37572239)
The only way they're not is by the Nixonian "when the President does it, that means it's not illegal" standard.
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Re:Snowden leak: Cavium networking hardware may contain NSA ... by mindslight on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @12:06PM (#37571992)
Yes. By the straightforward standards that non-governmental criminal conspiracies are prosecuted, a large chunk of the NSA is engaged in a criminal conspiracy. We don't hold back on prosecuting other criminal conspiracies just because their associations produce other results like financially supporting their communities and coaching their kids' soccer teams.
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