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Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by LorenPechtel on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:12PM (#37559796)
Actually, no. A pilot might punch from a perfectly flyable aircraft that ran out of fuel and can't be glided in due to terrain. Or a plane that has no propulsion for other reasons. They might even punch from a plane with some fuel but damage that precludes landing--if they're over civilization they might point it into nowhere and punch so they come down over civilization.
Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by MarkMarine on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:24PM (#37559980)
Ok, and here we go with the armchair aviators. Time in a Microsoft flight simulator doesn’t give you expertise.

I’ll just reiterate, by the time a pilot is ejecting from the aircraft, everything has been done. Read through the incident reports and find me an incident where this wasn’t done, cite it please. I can’t find one.

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/docs/type/accident/

Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by pfannkuchen on Monday September 18, 2023 @06:08PM (#37562764)
I mean, are there detailed accident reports for the sort of military plane with “keep it away from the enemy” type equipment onboard? Seems like you wouldn’t want to give away information about crash behavior since that could help the enemy recover the equipment.

Not saying it is plausible or not in the first place, I have no idea, but I don’t see how a lack of published reports of this happening in the real world proves anything.

Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by zikzak on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @08:07AM (#37568797)
I think people think ejecting from one of these planes is like something you would do casually if things aren't going well.

My limited knowledge leads me to believe this would be an absolute last resort and has a high risk if injuring the pilot.

Also, installing these in the passenger seat of your car is expensive, difficult, and illegal just in case anyone is also thinking of this right now.

Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by LorenPechtel on Tuesday September 19, 2023 @03:12PM (#37574867)
I'm not saying they would punch if there was something to be done--the pilot could have found the problem was one that couldn't be dealt with. I'm saying that the control surfaces might be operational on a plane the pilot was punching from. Desert Storm an Iraqi pilot punched from an intact plane--he beat the Phoenix (long range shot) but ran out of fuel doing it.
Re:US Military Asks for Help Locating Missing F-35 Fighter Jet by mcguire on Monday September 18, 2023 @03:23PM (#37560769)
The key point is that the plane does not crash in a populated area (and secondarily that a military plane is destroyed if crashing in an area not controlled by the owner); in both of your examples, the pilot routinely does the first if not necessarily the second.