News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by paulusthe on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:06PM (#37546540)
"regulations slow innovation" is not a valid reason to ignore any regulation one finds annoying.

That said, my problem isn't that he broke the rules. My problem is that, when confronted about having broken the rules, he lied about it then retreated into "why don't you believe the mission bro?" As if his solution is the only possible solution to the problem.

He's full of himself, doesn't care about rules, and gaslights those that criticize him. His messianic do-gooder-ism a bullshit marketing cover for him doing what he wants.

Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by CamperBob2 on Sunday September 17, 2023 @01:08PM (#37547243)
"regulations slow innovation" is not a valid reason to ignore any regulation one finds annoying.

Eh. We'd still be stuck with taxis, Prohibition, and 55 MPH speed limits if we followed this dictum. Not to mention paying taxes to the King of England.

Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by poisonborz on Sunday September 17, 2023 @01:35PM (#37547498)
Paying taxes to the King of England = companies should have unrestricted access to medical data of millions of people?
Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by CamperBob2 on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:44PM (#37548636)
Suitably anonymized, I'd say "Yes." You can't make progress in any field without data. Usually, the more data the better, as long as it's good data. If archaic, misguided laws have to be broken to save lives, well... so be it.

The real trick is keeping personally-identifiable data out of the hands of insurance companies.

Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by happytiger on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:53PM (#37548717)
More like respecting all the rules assumes that the rule makers never make mistakes, act politically, or serve their own interests over those of the larger society.

Strict compliance to rule following is relying on some centralized authority to set the rules.

Your argument would make for a low risk environment but also high tyrannical potential. Rules are created to protect the status quo — not to spur innovation. Rules are established by people in power and those people have a vested interest in staying in power. Rules should be minded but not necessarily respected.

As in all things, a balance. But to argue all for one way or another is folly.

Re:DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s... by fnordpiglet on Sunday September 17, 2023 @04:42PM (#37549097)
I struggle with why this access is an issue. If the health data were used in making insurance decisions, marketing, employment, or any sort of way that has a personal impact on the people in the data set then absolutely not. But presumably personally identifying information is in no way relevant to the task of training models, so what specifically is the concern? Medical data is a constellation of observations over time. Why is this particularly sensitive, especially if it’s not associated with any specific identifiable person?

HIPPA has seemed to create a view that anything related to medical care is the most secret information in all the world, when in fact it’s pretty useless to anyone but yourself and people that want your money in some way that exploits your health situation. HIPPA itself only really erects barriers between your health data and disclosure to insurers and providers without your consent.