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Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by maxbond on Sunday September 17, 2023 @02:30AM (#37542116)
I agree fish are animals, but it's perfectly ordinary to use lay definitions rather than scientific definitions. Most people don't call fish animals, and that's fine.
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by danielbln on Sunday September 17, 2023 @02:52AM (#37542214)
Uh, citation needed. I don't know anyone that doesn't call fish animals.
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by maxbond on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:05AM (#37542296)
You sure? Have you asked?

Most of the people in my life have a strong interest in biology, my friends are nerds who are liable to use binomial names they picked up in Seek. But I doubt we're reflective of the broader culture. I think a lot of people couldn't tell you the difference between a kingdom from a phylum, and again, that's fine, it doesn't make them stupid or something.

See also this comment for some citations about how they are categorized in the context of commerce: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37542165

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by danielbln on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:13AM (#37542343)
The differentiation you've linked is about meat vs seafood, which I would go along with. This is about using the term "animal" for fish, no?
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by maxbond on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:17AM (#37542370)
Here's an experiment I performed, you can try it if you care to. I just went to my preferred search engine and did an image search for "animal".

I had to scroll down about thirty images to find something that wasn't a mammal. It was a lizard. Most of the animals were fuzzy. (I may have missed some marsupials, to be fair.) I believe these search results are reflective of what people are looking for when they search "animal," and it isn't fish.

Are fish animals? I would agree. Is it normal to feel differently? I believe so.

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by danielbln on Sunday September 17, 2023 @09:00AM (#37544603)
You have to go down pages and pages to even find a hedgehog, and you find very few birds. I think you find very, very few people who wouldn't call an ostrich or a hedgehog an animal, so I don't know how much that experiment says really.
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by hydrok9 on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:52AM (#37545631)
Why would you need to know anything about taxonomy in order to know fish are animals? Sorry, but no one I've ever known has made any distinction between the two.

I think maybe there is some overlap with op and the idea that "fish" is different from "meat." That's something that basically everyone said at some point.

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by maxbond on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:40AM (#37546240)
Fish and animals are taxonomic categories (as are meat and fish, the food).

If fish aren't meat but are animals, it should tell you how arbitrary these distinctions are.

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by hydrok9 on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:19PM (#37546683)
Fish is meat. It's just that people are used to associating "meat" with "red meat". But if you press people, they are not going to say that in no way is fish flesh considered meat. They just don't generally use the same word to describe both things.

You don't need to know any details of taxonomy as a discipline to know that fish are animals.

For the record, the original meaning of "meat," was just food, in general. So we have sweetmeats, mincemeat, etc.

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by maxbond on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:34PM (#37546872)
The exercise you're talking about, is an exercise in taxonomy. (Though I agree it doesn't require special expertise to engage in taxonomy.)
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by hydrok9 on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:41PM (#37546954)
It only requires a working brain to look at two similar things and categorize them similarly.
Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by SkyPuncher on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:01AM (#37542274)
Not necessarily scientific fact, but religion has historically differentiated between fish and other forms of animal meat (e.g. land meet).

During lent, Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays but can still eat fish. In fact, some people practice it all year long.

Re:California woman loses limbs after battling bacterial inf... by danielbln on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:12AM (#37542334)
Oh, I wouldn't think of fish when I hear "meat", but that's separate from thinking of fish as something separate from "animals".