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Re:America's advanced manufacturing problem and how to fix it by stouset on Sunday September 17, 2023 @02:17AM (#37542047)
> Markets that are less efficient in that task hurt long-term retirement investors and day-traders alike.

On some level this is true, but the insane quantities being siphoned out of the economy through the financial system is wildly disproportionate to the increasingly-infinitesimal gains in “price efficiency”.

As a long-term investor in the market as a whole, whether Apple’s true per-share value today is 175.01 and not 175.07 is almost completely irrelevant. Even less so the difference between 175.008913 and 175.008916.

We have long since passed a point where there is sufficient liquidity and sufficient price discovery for the purpose of buy-and-hold investment, and every extra dollar that goes to financial services in the name of more accurately determining prices is just a transfer of money from people who provide value to the economy to a class of leeches who provide nearly nothing.

Re:America's advanced manufacturing problem and how to fix it by RandomLensman on Sunday September 17, 2023 @07:35AM (#37543917)
The money is not siphoned out of the economy (unless it all leaves the US/World). The money made in finance is just as any other money, i.e., it is used to consume, invest, save etc.

Btw., no-one is forced to trade incessantly, either.

Re:America's advanced manufacturing problem and how to fix it by stouset on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:54AM (#37546409)
The money technically being “in the economy” is cold comfort to the workers whose COL has steadily increased while wages have remained flat.
Re:America's advanced manufacturing problem and how to fix it by twoodfin on Sunday September 17, 2023 @06:12PM (#37549817)