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Re:Java 21 makes me like Java again by ttyyzz on Saturday September 16, 2023 @06:26PM (#37539401)
Yeah I really like my IDE doing stuff in the background without me knowing shit about it.
Re:Java 21 makes me like Java again by piva00 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @06:31PM (#37539454)
Yeah, I do like my IDE doing the tedious work for me. It's also really nice to unzip any JAR I need to troubleshoot and know exactly where to navigate to find exactly the file with the code I need.

I like Golang a lot but the standardisation and verbosity in Java-land has some benefits after you get used to it enough to learn to ignore the boilerplate, it's pretty good to have some kind of consistency enforced by the VM when working in large codebases.

Re:Java 21 makes me like Java again by quickthrower2 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:45PM (#37540986)
Yes some C# codebases end up with wildly inconsistent namespacing as you can do anything you like
Re:Java 21 makes me like Java again by threeseed on Saturday September 16, 2023 @07:26PM (#37539864)
I don't understand how it is doing stuff in the background.

You literally ask it to move some class and then it does it. And it's very obvious what it's doing.

Re:Java 21 makes me like Java again by Too on Sunday September 17, 2023 @07:16AM (#37543788)
Then you’d be thrilled to hear about all the stuff your NVME drivers are doing in the background without you knowing shit about it. Or maybe you prefer to engrave your ones and zeroes in stone by hand?

Abstractions exist for a reason. In Java, that abstraction is coding in classes and packages, not files of text.