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Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by locopati on Friday September 15, 2023 @10:57AM (#37524038)
Seriously? That's your response. Who's debating your right to existence? Or do you get to take yours for granted?
Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by throwawa14223 on Friday September 15, 2023 @11:20AM (#37524408)
Yes, seriously. Pick a characteristic and someone out there says it should not exist. I've walked past people with megaphones saying my race should not exist. I've loudly been told my religion should not exist by employers. Having your existence questioned is normal and probably unavoidable whenever humans with different values bump into one another.
Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by locopati on Friday September 15, 2023 @11:46AM (#37524827)
And because of that are people taking away your health insurance? Are people preventing you from getting necessary medical care?
Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by throwawa14223 on Friday September 15, 2023 @11:51AM (#37524934)
Moving the goalposts. Dawkins is doing neither of those in the above article.
Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by itiro on Friday September 15, 2023 @02:54PM (#37527624)
Yeah; Fed wants higher unemployment. CEOs openly discuss hurting workers to kowtow them. Roe v Wade? Cuts to social health programs are floated all the time.

Threats and attempts at persecution of “others” is endemic to human nature.

Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by locopati on Friday September 15, 2023 @07:03PM (#37530122)
You're ignoring specifics by making a dismissive general point. There is a specific thing happening right now that has the goal of eliminating a kind of person by preventing them from existing. That's different than the misogyny of Roe v Wade or the dehumanizing capitalism of job-based health care.
Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by itiro on Friday September 15, 2023 @07:32PM (#37530349)
I have a parent who transitioned and has received threats.

I have an Asian friend that’s been attacked by MAGA nutters who don’t want Asians to exist.

I had a Jewish mentor in physics in college who had Nazi flags left on her office door.

I am a white guy whose been followed and taunted by Hispanics saying white people should be eradicated.

While I look like a white guy, my paternal heritage includes Native American; my grandma was 100% Ojibwa.

I know the issue first hand. Threats of eradicating each other over biases are a problem among the species, and they happen to racial and ethnic minorities every damn day somewhere on the world. So sick of people with blinders on thinking their problem is unique.

Stfu; so tired of being told by strangers on the internet I don’t know what I’m fucking talking about.

Re:How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak t... by itiro on Friday September 15, 2023 @02:52PM (#37527597)
Seattle police laughed off one of their officers running someone over, saying the victim was low value.

Religious groups everywhere chant about death for non-believers.

Right wing fringe threaten to attack progressives regardless of their gender.

Apparently not liking Israeli government makes one anti-semitic and inclined to reopen the death camps.

Don’t be so disingenuous; hate groups and those that marginalize the existence of others are all over.

Or stay disingenuous, stare at one burning tree ignoring the rest of the forest on fire.