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Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by slantedview on Friday September 15, 2023 @02:39AM (#37519322)
The big 3's profits were $250 Billion over the last 10 years. The idea that paying their workers fairly is going to cripple them is nonsense.
Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by reducesuffering on Friday September 15, 2023 @03:49AM (#37519856)
Let's be a bit more specific. GM made $8.9 billion last year on $157 billion of revenue, a 5.7% sliver. A large portion of the costs to earn that revenue is labor, and they are asking a 40% increase of those costs, while GM had said 20%. This is a company with $118 billion in debt, which is increasingly going to roll over to much larger interest payments from now on, due to the Fed Funds rate of 5.25%. And they're trying to reinvest those profits into the transition to EV. If they don't do that, they're dead. This is also a company that made profits before going bankrupt just 15 years ago, which our taxes had to pay for. I don't want to see employees out of jobs ("every auto job is a good job" -UAW), nor do I think UAW is entirely well meaning when they've been shown trying to weaken EPA regulations[0] so they can pump out more polluting Camaros and Cadillacs for the past decade while Tesla created EV's.

[0]https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/uaw-wa...

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by jakupovic on Friday September 15, 2023 @06:07AM (#37520774)
If they cannot pay their employees a fair wage someone else will. There is no need to cry for the rich overlords and lament their lack of more profit.

This is just nonsense, the point of capitalism is to extract value efficiently, if Big 3 cannot, then other companies will. There is no in between or buts.

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by bluedino on Friday September 15, 2023 @07:08AM (#37521239)
GM gave all the hourly employees a $12,750 bonus check this year because of company profits.
Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by nojito on Friday September 15, 2023 @08:29AM (#37521955)
Actually. No one else will.

UAW was unable to unionize non-big 3 factories in the US.

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by danaris on Friday September 15, 2023 @10:56AM (#37524030)
Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

There's a huge wave of increased support for labor in the US right now. It's definitely not a good idea to bet on any particular area remaining un-unionized.

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by nojito on Friday September 15, 2023 @02:16PM (#37527095)
You’re not getting it.

There is zero chance non-us car factories unionize. There is nothing stopping them from closing the factory and moving internationally. The same isn’t true for the big 3.

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by danaris on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:39AM (#37535733)
Sure there is: whatever reasons led them to build factories in the US in the first place.

And for, say, German automakers, they already have unionized workforces outside the US.

This whole narrative of "we cannot possibly try to improve anything for our people, because any time we do the wealthy overlords will move their business/money/etc overseas" is demonstrably bullshit, and always has been. It doesn't hold up for raising taxes on the wealthy, it doesn't hold up for unionization, and it won't hold up for whatever the next thing people like you try to use it to argue against will be.

Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by jakupovic on Monday September 18, 2023 @06:43AM (#37554486)
Thank you!
Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by AmVess on Friday September 15, 2023 @06:14PM (#37529741)
No one will pay them a fair wage because there will no plants for them to work in. The US manufacturers will simply ramp up offshoring of entire vehicles to China. The new Lincoln SUV is an entirely in house design from Changan motors soup to nuts. You can fully expect this to become common for US brands.
Re:United Auto Workers launches a historic strike against al... by aapl88889 on Friday September 15, 2023 @06:11AM (#37520794)
They big 3 currently have $354 Billion in debt.