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Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:15PM (#37517873)
Just because alcohol is bad for you, doesn't mean weed is good for you.

I believe it's easier to get addicted to weed than alcohol. I think time will prove me right.

Think of it this way. Let's say there are 100 people in a society. Without weed, 5 are addicted to alcohol. With weed, 20 are addicted to weed and 3 are addicted to alcohol. Yes, there will be fewer alcohol addicts, but we added 20 weed addicts. Is this better for society? I don't believe so.

You're welcomed to disagree.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by quickthrowman on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:54PM (#37518156)
Being addicted to alcohol is easily an order of magnitude more destructive to a person and the people around them than chronic marijuana use. It’s not even close.

I’ve been to inpatient chemical dependency treatment twice, once for opiate addiction and once for alcohol addiction. There were 0 people that were inpatient for marijuana use.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Friday September 15, 2023 @12:25AM (#37518409)
Just because alcohol addiction is worse for you, doesn't mean weed is good for you.
Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by hydrok9 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:51AM (#37532357)
But the problem is the ADDICTION, not the substance itself. People are trying to point out that if you are against marijuana legalization (because people become addicts), then you must also be against legal alcohol, as it is a much more destructive and addictive substance. And you haven't answered with anything except "weed is bad for you!"
Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by MaxikCZ on Friday September 15, 2023 @12:08AM (#37518288)
I dont think its fair to just pull those number out of your bottocks and use them as argument. The same way I could argue "100 people, 20 addicted to alcohol, with weed 5 are addicted to weed and 5 to alcohol, while 30 begun to use alcohol/weed responsibly after broadening their views on how substances affect their mind.

Now the argument looks completely different, yet still holds 0 value.

It seems to me you are scared of weed now, and with your honest good will want to save others from it as well. That's nice and all, but please don't presume you know better than everyone, or even better than "those who haven't tried it yet".

I have had my fair share of experiences with weed, and while I agree that mindless consumption will bring harm (ask me how I know), I also believe that just landing hard in this case helped me discern this pattern in other areas of my life too - so (in my subjective experience) even this harm it brought me _directly_ improved my life in the long run. And that's before I start talking about effect it had outside its most obvious harm.

I advocate for education, and responsible trials for anyone curious, and I believe it can bring many positive changes into ones life. One just have not to abuse it.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Friday September 15, 2023 @12:16AM (#37518348)
Yes, I pulled the numbers out of my ass - just like you did. It's just my opinion and I was just trying to make a point with an example - not hard facts. I never presented it as hard facts.
Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by Perenti on Friday September 15, 2023 @01:06AM (#37518681)
Your 20 pot heads are most dangerous to sweets and junk food. The alcoholics drive, get angry and start fights.

I'd much rather be in a room with 20 stoners than 5 drunks.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Friday September 15, 2023 @01:19AM (#37518775)
I agree with you. Absolutely.

My stance is, just because alcohol is bad for you, doesn’t mean weed is good for you.

I’d rather not be in a room with either group though.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by eschaton on Friday September 15, 2023 @03:18AM (#37519623)
So don’t be. What you’re saying is that nobody should be able to be in that room, because you know better than they what’s best for them.

You don’t seem to recognize that, at its enactment, drug prohibition had absolutely nothing to do with any sort of literal harm drugs caused to their users. Look up the horrifically racist excuse that was used for making cannabis illegal.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Friday September 15, 2023 @03:55AM (#37519905)
I watched the documentary on blacks and weed on Netflix. I'm not an expert. I have some idea.

I do not care about racism in weed or the past. I'm speaking purely from my own experience. I'm also speaking on weed's influence on my future children. Weed does not exist on a vacuum. It doesn't exist for only users and not at all for non-users.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by eschaton on Friday September 15, 2023 @04:21PM (#37528658)
Who are you to restrict your future children’s access once they’re adults?
Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by aurareturn on Friday September 15, 2023 @08:56PM (#37530926)
We pass on learnings to our children. Even when they’re adults, they are our children.

You can’t possibly think kids having easy access to drugs is good.

If you do, you’re just speaking like an addict and I would suggest some help.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by eschaton on Friday September 15, 2023 @11:06PM (#37531664)
I don’t think kids having easy access to lots of things is a good idea. However, I think adults having easy access to those same things is fine.

Why would you bring up that straw-man unless you think that you should still be able to control your children’s choices after they become adults? They may be your descendants, but when they are no longer children, you don’t get more than an advisory role in their choices.

Re:Cannabis use raises the risk of major depression, bipolar... by hydrok9 on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:41AM (#37532321)
"Learnings." Your English is a bit strange. You are not a native speaker I take it?

In my part of the world, legalization has made it harder for kids to get pot, not easier.