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Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by masklinn on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @01:18PM (#37499123)
> Maybe, I’d like to see some sources that the chip is actually the same as what they use in the pro iPads.

https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-12-9-...

Scroll to the "chip" section, and straight from the horse's mouth they both use a 4+4 / 8 M1, I rather doubt Apple has a variant of that chip which removes ip blocks (AFAIK the only variant is the 4+4 / 7 chip still available on the super low end MBA).

> It also could be heat related in the iPad Air

That... does not in any way affect the point?

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by buildbot on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @01:39PM (#37499336)
Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip? That’s not clear on the spec sheet, you’d need a teardown.

> That... does not in any way affect the point?

Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 138 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets.

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by masklinn on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @02:06PM (#37499694)
> Can the M1 do thunderbolt without any other chip?

Yes. Per Apple:

> More Innovative Technologies Packed into M1

> An Apple-designed Thunderbolt controller with support for USB 4, transfer speeds up to 40Gbps, and compatibility with more peripherals than ever.

> you’d need a teardown.

You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller?

> Okay…you’re right, the only reason I don’t have a 128 core epyc cpu in my iPad is market segmentation! Darn markets.

I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered.

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by buildbot on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @02:26PM (#37499876)
> You mean like the dozens of teardowns of M1 macs when it was released, which only found retimers on the motherboard but no external controller?

Thanks for the info!

> I see you are wilfully obtuse and entirely unserious. I'm sorry I bothered.

No, you are being an asshole and a bit of idiot. I said it might be heat related - so there is a reason beyond market segmentation that apple does not include thunderbolt in the iPad air. I don't know why I am bothering either, but here we are.