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Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:02AM (#37497690)
Genuine question: How does USB 2.0 compare to Bluetooth (Airdrop) and wifi (assume local network or ad hoc, not icloud or internet) speeds on the 15 line?

EDIT: TIL more about the underlying mechanics of Airdrop than I thought I would, appreciate the lesson.

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by Kirby64 on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:23AM (#37498004)
Actual Bluetooth is slow, 1.5Mbit or so, depending on the implementation. You wouldn't transfer large amounts of data that way. Maybe a photo, or smallish files. But, as the other poster noted, Airdrop uses Wi-Fi direct now so it's at wifi speeds.

Modern Wi-Fi 6 (what is in the new iPhones, even in the older iPhones) is theoretically much faster. Gigabit+ speeds. In practice, you can expect similar or faster speeds vs. USB2 over Wi-Fi. If it's ad-hoc from iPhone to iPhone, it should be much closer to theoretical max since they will be in close proximity.

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by ceddiexd on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:18AM (#37497921)
I’ve seen both AirDrop and LAN over WiFi reach a steady state at around 55-60 MB/s in ideal conditions, which is remarkably similar to USB 2.0. That speed is only reached when the devices are stationary and close to each other though, any movement causes a temporary drop since wave compression or interference presumably results in signal degradation and some sort of checksumming to occur. Also I can’t recall the specifics but AirDrop only uses Bluetooth to negotiate the connection. The underlying transmission uses peer-to-peer WiFi, so it’s no surprise their speeds are similar to each other.

Incidentally, I’m sure there’s a myriad of practical reasons why it would have been too early for Apple to go entirely portless, but funnily enough as it turns out, a decrease in transfer speed compared to USB 2.0 over Lightning wouldn’t have been one of them.

Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by kamcma on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:11AM (#37497816)
AirDrop only uses Bluetooth for handshake and configuration. Data is then transferred over Wi-Fi Direct.
Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by stouset on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:08AM (#37497782)
Airdrop negotiates a WiFi connection using Bluetooth but does all the data transfer at WiFi speeds.
Re:Apple finally put USB-C in new iPhone, but limited to 23-... by lloeki on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:06AM (#37497752)
USB 2.0 Hi Speed is 480 Mb/s

I get about that with my 13 mini on my WiFi 6 AP.

BT 5.x I have no idea.