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Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by coffeebeqn on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @07:50PM (#37490299)
Yeah wouldn’t it be less copper to only put in the voltage connectors? I don’t see why low end wouldn’t skimp out on those
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by zlsa on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:07PM (#37491336)
If a USB-C to USB-C cable only had wires for VCC and GND, here's what wouldn't work:

* Data (this one is fairly obvious) * Power (since the CC wire in the cable is missing, and a compliant USB-C power source will refuse to output power unless the CC wire is terminated on the other end which signals what type of device it is)

You'd need at _least_ the CC wire as well.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by hedora on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @11:37PM (#37491900)
Can’t the cable terminate it instead? That would save a lot of wire, and consumer expectations for USB-C reliability are just above “might catch fire” and below “I’d be surprised if the cable was incompatible or failed so quickly”.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by duskwuff on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @12:36AM (#37492245)
You'd end up with a cable that only worked for "slow charging" (5V / 500 mA), and even then only in one direction (because the cable could only pretend to be Rp+Ra or Ra+Rd for one side). It's easier to do the right thing.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by hedora on Thursday September 14, 2023 @12:16PM (#37510901)
I wonder how much a crappy voltage regulator costs vs. 3-9ft of wire. Maybe you could step the voltage down at the device end?
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by dfcowell on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:48PM (#37491627)
The spec requires negotiation between the devices to deliver any nontrivial amount of power. A data connection is necessary to enable charging.