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Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by isatty on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:40PM (#37487933)
I’ll take the better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost from not having user replaceable batteries any day.

Had to replace an iPhone battery exactly once over the last 3-4 years and it was done for free with applecare, in and out in 30 mins.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by slipshady on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:48PM (#37488057)
> free with applecare

So about $200 depending on what model you have then? I pay for AppleCare+ for my iPhone 11 (mostly because I like not using a case) and it's not free.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by noitpmeder on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:49PM (#37488069)
Don't you pay a subscription for applecare? So not exacty free
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by tiborsaas on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:51PM (#37488100)
Quartz wristwatches have replaceable batteries since their invention and waterproofing the is not really an issue.

> free with applecare

That's true in your case, but if someone buys a used model then they might prefer to do it at home especially because of budget issues.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by extr0pian on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:53PM (#37488135)
Regarding "better water resistance", there have been a ton of phones released in the past that have had water resistance standards of at least IP 67 and that had a user replaceable battery. That part of your argument doesn't hold water.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by jh00ker on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @08:16PM (#37490490)
I see what you did there!
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by jh00ker on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:55PM (#37488182)
>better water resistance/proofing/reduced engineering cost

This is a myth. Look at the Samsung Galaxy S5 (IP67) & Sony XP10 (IP68). (Yeah, I'm a big Louis Rossmann fan; I learned this from his videos.)

Even if it were true, are you telling me Apple couldn't engineer a solution to the problem and turn it into a key marketing element boasting their innovation?

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by atyppo on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:00PM (#37488266)
My iPhone's battery health has been stuck at 83% for nearly 15 months. It was only 9 months old (purchased brand new) when it reached 83%. Apple will not replace with Applecare unless it is below 80%. Something doesn't add up there.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by dahwolf on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:47PM (#37488952)
Let me guess...fast charging?

Don't do it. Ruins batteries.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by prennert on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:02PM (#37488300)
Waterproofing in terms of actually being able to use the phone under water or not breaking when it falls into water (i.e. it will switch itself off when submerged and after it dried it will work again)?
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by gibolt on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:09PM (#37488400)
I had an Android phone from Motorola (that cost $10) that could be fully submerged. The seal mechanism was bulky and the phone was hot garbage.

For me, battery life for days in airplane mode is good enough if it means never worrying about liquid

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by sam345 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:12PM (#37488449)
And paid how much for Applecare over the 3-4 years?
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by Modified3019 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:15PM (#37488496)
There is a technology called “rubber o-rings” that has allowed for waterproof/resistant user replaceable battery designs in cell phones since they came out.