Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by elil17 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:33PM
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"It absolutely reduces your ability to take it oxygen easily."
This is absolutely false. There is very strong evidence that masks do not effect gas exchange. One example of many: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/face-masks-may-inc...
Masks do make your lung muscles work slightly harder, but there's nothing wrong with that.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by mrob on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:45PM
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This is only talking about low oxygen demand scenarios.
"Each participant performed a six-minute walk test"
I've personally tested (out of curiosity) bicycling performance while wearing a half-face respirator that's barely noticeable during walking. Both measured speed and subjective difficulty were severely affected during high intensity exercise.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by elil17 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:02PM
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That sounds reasonable, but even then it doesn't mean someone shouldn't wear a mask. Their performance would be decreased, but it doesn't mean that it would be medically dangerous (they would not have low blood oxygenation, for example).
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by talldatethrow on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @06:45PM
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I'm currently dating a 6th grade school teacher. She said when they returned to school with masks the kids were for sure more lethargic and even woozy more often than she had ever seen in her 10 years teaching. As masks were removed over time, it went away more and more.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by elil17 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @09:46PM
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There are lots of other explanations for that. For example, it could be confirmation bias. It could also be that a lot of the kids had long COVID and the effects are wearing off over time.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by talldatethrow on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @04:33PM
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Makes sense, since we have zero proof of any real reason, let's go with the ones with even less obvious explanations.
Children and long covid? Children barely got covid in the first place... Long covid? In so many kids a teacher could notice? Give me a break.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by mrob on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @04:53PM
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It occurred to me that cycling primarily involves heart, lungs, and legs. You train all of them simultaneously, so they'll naturally have balanced performance. If you selectively impair one of the three, it will become a bottleneck. However, it seems to me that the lungs have the easiest job (e.g. cycling is easier than tasks like inflating balloons), so it should be possible to recover almost all the lost performance by training with the respirator on, bringing the lungs back into balance with the heart and legs.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by nradov on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @05:40PM
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What's the point of that when there's no need to wear a respirator in the first place?
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by mrob on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @05:42PM
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The point is to acknowledge a limitation of my testing.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by talldatethrow on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @06:43PM
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Your first sentence and last sentence basically contradict each other....
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by elil17 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @09:44PM
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It means your diaphragm has to do more work to open and close your lungs. However you’re still able to get plenty of oxygen.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on
by talldatethrow on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:02PM
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I guess my personal experiences mowing lawns and dirtbiking in a mask are meaningless and false. I got it. I just have to do more work, but it's no harder, and I can still get 'plenty' of air, as long as I don't need more than totally sedentary.
But I wouldn't say there is zero downside to wearing a mask, atleast the way 98% of people wore one during covid. (The same one all day, if not a week, touching it, putting it in pockets, around your neck, on your greasy forehead, so on).
I used to wear a mask because allergies when I mowed the lawn or even dirtbiking during certain seasons. It absolutely reduces your ability to take it oxygen easily. I get winded a lot easier wearing a mask. Is that meaningless to children wearing them all day at school? Idk.