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Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by mcpackieh on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:00PM (#37486099)
> I get your perspective, but everybody has their own risk assessment and comfort

Yeah I get that, but with him it seems very out of character. He likes to ski and is a general aviation pilot; these aren't low risk activities. I hope he comes to term with the new normal soon because he's still young and spending the rest of his life paranoid behind a mask would be truly sad.

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by NikolaNovak on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:16PM (#37486402)
But again, the risk stats and perspectives and acceptance may differ. You may need to work on yourself to develop empathy for your and his personal choices and stop thinking of him as "sad", more than work on him and try to "help" him :-). The word "paranoid" seems out of place as well - the risk is actual and demonstrable.

For example, skiing is fun. Flying airplanes is fun. And general aviation is quite safe for those who take it seriously. So while there's risk, there's also a reward. And that risk / reward ratio may be what they choose to personally accept.

There's no reward for getting covid! There's no fun in it! And many people either don't want to get it at all (given the risk of either bad immediate symptoms or long term impact), or had bad experience and don't want to recur, or don't want to contribute to chain and infect others yet.

Heck... I'm persuading myself to start wearing mask again (the only reason I stopped is that I work from home, but have a 2yo in daycare and 4yo in kindergarten which massively outweighs any risk I bring into house).

(I do want to ask though - are they wearing like n95 or surgical mask... Or as you mentioned in original post a full painting-sryle respirator with two big round filters etc? That, I'll agree, is a significant comittment if they don't have significant personal risk factors)

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by mrob on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:25PM (#37486571)
In my experience, a half-face respirator is more comfortable than a FFP2 (European standard similar to N95) or surgical mask. They have soft silicone seals, and bigger filters and exhalation valves that minimize breathing resistance. If you want to reduce your chances of getting COVID-19 it seems the obvious choice.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by progman32 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:12PM (#37486322)
For him, the reward of those activities possibly justifies the risk in his mind.

I sometimes also mask in public, because it bothers me approximately zero.

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by scns on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:25PM (#37486578)
> He likes to ski and is a general aviation pilot; these aren't low risk activities.

So? These are situations where he is kinda in control no? Out in public, how much control does he have about people, with or without symptoms, going to the same shop?

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by wizzwizz4 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:19PM (#37486438)
> He likes to ski and is a general aviation pilot; these aren't low risk activities.

So… spending micromorts on worthwhile activities, rather than on queueing at the supermarket? Sounds pretty consistent to me.

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by NikolaNovak on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:27PM (#37486619)
TIL about micomorts :). That is fascinating!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by mcpackieh on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @12:08PM (#37498586)
Literally micro-optimizing your risks? Yeah, that sounds totally normal dude. Make sure to wear a helmet everywhere you go just in case a tree branch bonks you on the head or something.
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by op00to on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:43PM (#37486895)
I mask in close indoor situations. I am not paranoid. Why do you think he is paranoid?
Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by wait_what on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:46PM (#37486961)
I like to woodwork and walk.

Spending 3 weeks in bed with COVID before the vaccines existed made me super risk adverse to people and especially people coughing. You have no concept of how long a week in bed is, let alone 3 of them. The long nights in pain. The long days just wishing you could get through the enormous headache to rest and sleep. The powerless feeling that you can't even sit up enough to do anything you have previously enjoyed. Heck, I still remember my son bringing in my copy of Cyberpunk that just came out and I didn't even have the energy to turn on my laptop on my lap to install it. Even when I got COVID again 2 years later and it was just a couple days in bed, I get super pissed off when people belittle it and the people who try to stay away from it.

Just last Saturday night, I was out shopping and some lady was walking around with a "smoker's cough". I tried to stay away and not go back into places she had been. When I got in line to check out and got stalled in front from a lady with a huge cartload and the cougher got behind me and started hacking her brains out, I just abandoned my cart and left.

I am not spending that many days of my life being sick again like that if I can ever help it. So when I say that YOU NEED TO REPRIORITIZE YOUR EMPATHY. Take that to mean that if this wasn't on a forum that I need to talk nice-nice, I would not be talking nice-nice.

Re:Covid patients breathe out large amounts of virus early on by terminatornet on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:02PM (#37487285)
if I was in his shoes and I'd probably be worried about getting long covid and that stopping me from skiing or piloting.

The symptoms of long covid can be pretty debilitating and a lot of people just don't get better.

> For some people, Long COVID can last weeks, months, or years after COVID-19 illness and can sometimes result in disability.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/...

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/i...