Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t... by pentae on Sunday September 10, 2023 @01:02PM (#37457736)

Yeah and my point is that these studies look at energy consumption they don’t take into account things like burning yard waste or plastic garbage into their co2 consumption which is often done daily to keep mosquitoes away and from laziness. Nor does it look at air pollution nor waterways pollution. So it’s a useless metric that doesn’t even have accurate data or tell the real story.

What will we do when these societies who give no fucks about the environment (compared to the west) get wealthier?

White guilt is not going to save anyone

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Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t... by refulgentis on Sunday September 10, 2023 @01:20PM (#37457914)

I don't think proposing cutting CO2 emissions is "white guilt", but I probably missed something, as I'm not sure how race entered it. I'm also unsure if "White guilt" is a good descriptor for the West enforcing emission cuts by force on not-West.

Total mindbender on this is not-West countries are installing renewables at scale, solar is cheaper than any other supply you can think of.

Then we can start talking about "solar isn't enough because unreliable", true.

Then maybe we start talking about how it's racist to prevent people from having unreliable electricity, true, but that's not the proposal on the table.

To avoid those tarpits, I avoid the Woke Left/Woke Right stuff and just say "they're installing solar panels and it's cool if they gotta do coal/tires/etc. while we 10x batteries again like we did last decade" --- this also has the benefit of matching the uncoordinated reality as it stands

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