You have to consider how many people will die in the future from climate change

This sort of extremist desperation plants the seeds for justifying horrific, subhuman destruction. There are no limits. This is beyond dangerous, it’s foolish and cancerous.

Indeed, we need real order of magnitude numbers here of deaths from energy scarcity vs deaths from future climate change. Otherwise we're just blowing hot air around.

The environment will be fine. They want to kill people now in order to hopefully save people from dying in the future.

How this is not a parody is beyond me.

Maybe the novel coronavirus was meant to be exactly that. Or at least a trial run.

> They want to kill people now

this is drastically wrong and dangerous rhetoric

Why do you think people have to die? Keep the strictly necessary things, get rid of the superfluous. Doesn't seem too difficult to me.

Good luck figuring out which is which from the legislative armchair.

I recommend the book Seeing Like A State.

Ok, but you still have to try because we all agree the alternative is worse right?

I didn't mean to say that it's easy, just that it's simple. Simple things can still be hard to accomplish.

Strong “dropbox could be done in a weekend with rsync” vibes.

Also “If You Can Keep Your Head When Everybody Round You Is Losing His, Then It Is Very Probable That You Don’t Understand the Situation”

I never said it will be easy, but it still needs to be done.

Dropbox wasn't built in a weekend, but it was built.