Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by ndsipa_pomu on Sunday September 10, 2023 @11:13AM
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The true genocidal policy is to continue dumping CO2 into the atmosphere in increasing amounts. Personally, I feel it is more honest for us to deal with the outcomes of what "we" are doing now, rather than just leaving it for our children to deal with.
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Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by RandomLensman on Sunday September 10, 2023 @11:20AM
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The future is fundamentally uncertain. Climate change will be addressed but not by corporate welfare programs like net zero nor by impoverishing rich populations.
The idea that the simplistic socio-economic models/pathways are in any way right or predictive was just a fantasy.
Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by netsharc on Sunday September 10, 2023 @11:41AM
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> The future is fundamentally uncertain. Climate change will be addressed but not by corporate welfare programs like net zero nor by impoverishing rich populations.
This is very wishful thinking. It's like a doc telling you your body is collapsing due to lung cancer, you need to stop smoking, and you answering "the future is fundemantally uncertain, I'm sure something will come along and figure out this cancer for me, got a light?"
Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by RandomLensman on Sunday September 10, 2023 @11:53AM
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If you take the physics as given, all we can say that is if nothing different from the model is happening, things will be bad. The nature of "different" is, however, extremely broad.
Wishful thinking is that expensive sacrifices for the far future will be politically feasible while at the same time people need to already mitigate the effects of climate change. There need to be way better policy and technological packages than now.
Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by nwellinghoff on Sunday September 10, 2023 @11:54AM
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I think he implying nature will solve the problem regardless. I tend to agree and itβs probably not going to be pleasant for all of us.
Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by netsharc on Sunday September 10, 2023 @12:09PM
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Yeah, the narrative needs to be changed from saving the planet to saving civilization, but sadly a return to say the climate of the 70's (where the winters were snowy and summers weren't weeks of deadly 120 F weather) is even less realistic as people wanting to have a "America Great Again" (with current tech, wahey let's keep waiting for that deus ex machina!).
Re:Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea t...
by concordDance on Sunday September 10, 2023 @01:40PM
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But we aren't even close to lung collapse level predictions.
AFAIK worst case predictions for climate change death aren't above a billion life years.