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Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by dustyduster on Saturday September 09, 2023 @02:28PM (#37448636)
This reminds me of the "dust" theory in Egan's Permutation City.
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by jl6 on Saturday September 09, 2023 @02:52PM (#37448988)
It is indeed similar.

It seems to take a highly reductionist pathway: reality/experience can be simulated -> simulation is computation -> computation is mathematics -> mathematical objects exist regardless of whether anybody has discovered them.

This implies that all conceivable universes (including the ones where a lot of really bad things happen on an eternal loop) are possessed of the exact same reality as ours.

Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by zach_miller on Saturday September 09, 2023 @03:31PM (#37449402)
Am I missing something here? I can suppose a universe where the premise is false (This is a conceivable universe, I’d argue). Doesn’t that mean that this premise really is false?
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by axelsvensson on Saturday September 09, 2023 @03:51PM (#37449607)
Someone who holds this view would probably have to make the definitions more precise, so that if you live in a deterministic reality, you actually cannot conceive of a universe that isn't deterministic. You can throw around words like "indeterministic", but you cannot precisely simulate something indeterministic using only deterministic ingredients, and hence, for some precise definition of "conceive", cannot conceive such a universe.
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by mistermann on Saturday September 09, 2023 @04:47PM (#37450125)
If one assumes paradoxes are impossible maybe.
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by mannykannot on Saturday September 09, 2023 @08:33PM (#37451754)
The author's tenets seem to insist upon the reality of universes expressed in inconsistent formal systems, so I don't think this is fatal to the argument - though it suppose it might render pointless any attempt to treat the premise analytically.
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by mannykannot on Saturday September 09, 2023 @08:29PM (#37451726)
I don't suppose a mathematical Platonist would limit the possibilities to conceivable universes, as they suppose the math exists regardless.
Re:Existing in an Un-Simulated Reality by prmph on Sunday September 10, 2023 @07:41AM (#37454922)
Then what would the concept of truth mean then, in such a situation