I like Dustin's design better, but DAMN.. he clearly borrowed from there :) I don't see a problem here, and I would feel flattered if I were Dustin (or Paul Scrivens).

I'd even prefer Drawar, if they didn't stretch video objects beyond the implied margins of posts.

I don't see it; the whole workflow - draft to publish columns and such - is the same at drawar, or?

I think it is a reference to the similarities in site layout. Same thin sidebar. Same minimalistic style.

But the whole svbtle article was very much about workflow and, at the end, community building via invites.

My blog has a similar minimal design and its just a stock Tubmlr one.

Since when are drafts a revolutionary blogging concept that dcurtis has a monopoly on? And Obtvse did not copy the community building via invites. In fact that was the whole point.

I thought we were discussing the suggestion that Dustin copied www.drawar.com

No, we were discussing whether Obtvse is evil. You said that although you did not disagree that Dustin copied drawar.com's design, the important contribution of Dustin is the drafts & closed community, and by implication that the evil act of Obtvse was to copy (a subset of) these concepts from Dustin. That is what I was contesting.

then that's where the confusion comes from!

drewblaisdell said (to Dustin):

> How different would you say his parody of your site is than your site is of http://drawar.com/ ?

I said I don't see how Svbtle is a copy of drawar.com:

> I don't see it; the whole workflow - draft to publish columns and such - is the same at drawar, or?

So I do not think that Svbtle is a rip-off of drawar.com.

Now if there's anything unique about Svbtle compared to the blogging systems I've personally used, its the draft thing (as explained in the Svbtle article we all read here on HN a few hours before this one).

My tumblr has drafts; but its not this trello-like list organising thing. As Dustin says, it helps make stories happen and posts get written.