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Re:Apple endorses bill that forces companies to disclose the... by jraph on Friday September 08, 2023 @06:47PM (#37440260)
We can't really make use of this citation because it's marketing, not objective scientific data. This page was done by a marketing team who want to sell you a nice story and a nice picture, not by scientists who are seeking some kind of truth.

This web page that says Apple is environmentally friendly weighs more than 20 MB.

edit: I just read it, there isn't anything about screen, battery and chipset / CPU production and material sourcing. In short, the big part of what is an actual issue with computer hardware and the environment.

Re:Apple endorses bill that forces companies to disclose the... by stalfosknight on Sunday September 10, 2023 @02:35AM (#37453448)
It's a legal document containing the public written statements of a publicly owned corporation including a PDF report with actual data and figures. If you're so sure it's a bunch of "marketing" lies then sue them for false advertising and get that easy win.
Re:Apple endorses bill that forces companies to disclose the... by jraph on Sunday September 10, 2023 @08:20AM (#37455159)
I didn't say they are lying. But it's very easy to cherry pick and arrange the looks of things.

Look, I'm not going to convince you at this point. You are also absolutely not going to convince me that this page should be trusted.

Let me just suggest you that if you are going to take marketing material at face value, be my guest, but I suspect you are in for some fun rides.

And good luck convincing people with (arguments coming from) marketing material too. I suspect this won't work with many people seeking more robust stuff.

See my other comment on actual elements that show that Apple is not that geared toward being environmentally friendly. These elements need to be addressed before I start changing my mind on this.