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Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by tiahura on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:46PM (#37428258)
Finally!

I know every time I travel to LA and SF my main impression is that there aren’t enough druggies around.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by kinakomochidayo on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:36PM (#37428559)
Psychedelics have anti-additive effects. Common ones like LSD, mushrooms, Ayahuasca have helped many people quit cigarettes, alcohol, and the stronger ones like Iboga help people get off of meth and opiates. Based on what you’ve said, you would actually support this.
Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by readthenotes1 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:44PM (#37428599)
Didn't work that way for 2 out of 2 of my family members.

I would be curious what replicated studies have shown your claim though.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by lucasban on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:04PM (#37428722)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25586396/

See the related studies section for additional examples

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by kinakomochidayo on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:14PM (#37428785)
> Didn't work that way for 2 out of 2 of my family members.

Set & Setting, dosage is important.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25586396/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4286320/

Personally for me, it helped me quit alcohol, cannabis, and even alleviated my diagnosed ADHD permanently so I quit taking my prescribed stimulant medications. I used it in a therapeutic environment, not with friends or at a party.

After numerous Ayahuasca ceremonies, turns out my traumas/upbringing led to the addictions in the first place.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by edgyquant on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:07AM (#37434485)
If these two are the only study and follow up you have no definitive conclusion should be taken (per your second link)

>Despite suggestive early findings on the therapeutic use of hallucinogens in the treatment of substance use disorders, rigorous follow up has not been conducted

> Although the open-label design does not allow for definitive conclusions regarding the efficacy of psilocybin

There’s a huge reproducibility problem in studies like this, and what you’re pushing here has not had multiple rounds of conclusive studies to boot. Basing sweeping policies off of one off “studies” or presenting them as objective fact is a dangerous course of action.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by pengaru on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:10PM (#37428762)
It's a really hard thing to get addicts off drugs when it's their environment that's addicted, and they're not in a position to exit that environment.

The same complication prevents obese people from losing weight, even when employing perfectly effective methods given a cooperative environment.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by Mizoguchi on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:34AM (#37429361)
We already have very good therapies and drugs to successfully treat addiction. The problem is you need to force an addict to seek treatment and once in make sure in completes it, which can takes months and years. This is a monumental task for someone with the resources and caring, supportive family/friends. For someone sick, broke and living alone on the streets is just not possible and psychedelics is not going to change that.
Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by kinakomochidayo on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:07AM (#37429584)
What I meant is that it could potentially help people who are at high risk of getting into addictions, and depending on that addiction, one that could lead to homelessness. And as far as I know, I don't know any therapies/medications that work over a period of 6-48 hours to stop addictions. I have heard of some meth/opiate addicts who, by some luck or connection, had opportunities to try Iboga/Ibogaine, and some completely overcame it, and some relapsed.

I didn't even have any history of doing therapy, but one dose of LSD on my own was enough to completely change my perspective, stop substances, and get me on the path of living healthy. Without it, I probably would've gone down a very dark path few years later; I might not even be alive today.

Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by edgyquant on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:04AM (#37434438)
I’m not sure there’s anything to backup this short time frame. It worked for you and that’s great, but basing your support for something like legalizing all hallucinogens on anecdotal evidence is not ideal.
Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by coffeebeqn on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:57PM (#37428334)
You’re seeing opioids and amphetamines
Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by corethree on Friday September 08, 2023 @01:13AM (#37429627)
Agreed, as a californian we have our priorities straight.
Re:California moves to decriminalize use of magic mushrooms,... by playday on Friday September 08, 2023 @07:32AM (#37432197)
Magic mushrooms do not cause zombification, that’s opiates mostly especially fentanyl.