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Re:Tailscale Has Partnered with Mullvad by kfreds on Thursday September 07, 2023 @02:44PM (#37423668)
> ISPs turning into jerks came on the heels of that.

> ISPs learned how to be bad from security experts explaining how much mischief a person could get up to and deciding that sounded like a swell idea

Telecommunications companies have played a central role in government surveillance schemes for at least 50 years, well before the advent of WiFi. ECHELON was fairly extensively reported on in the late 90's.

> it might have seemed like you heard about ISPs and hackers around the same time

I connected to the Internet around 1993, but my interest in computer security didn't start until around 1996. I'm not sure if that qualifies.

Re:Tailscale Has Partnered with Mullvad by hinkley on Thursday September 07, 2023 @04:04PM (#37424828)
Yeah I wasn't talking about surveillance, I was talking about adulterating internet traffic.

From the surveillance standpoint, we now have devices we take with us and leave unattended. We are all waiting for a proverbial woodpecker to destroy civilization.